I have heard reference to this but how long did the trip take from Buffalo to Pittsburgh on the B&P when it was intact in the 1980's on there fastest train? Was the train loaded in Buffalo and in Pittsburgh and if so where was there ramps?
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lvrr325 wrote:In fact, when the B&P was spun off the train came into Buffalo on Conrail, I'm not sure off the top of my head if it ran all the way from Chicago or came part way across on CSX. After the D&H went to CP Rail, they ran to Syracuse and down the former DL&W (it took about two years to get that going). I took some night exposures of the first train to run that routing eastbound.The Sealand trains ran on the Buffalo line from mid 1985 until 1989. Sealand moved the business over to Conrail in 1989 due to handling issues on the B&P. The move to Syracuse took place in 1995 when the contract came up for renewal. For the first year, Sealand occasionally put together a single stacked COFC train which ran via the C&O through Canada and Michigan. A fast routing but it could not handle stacks.
lvrr325 wrote:The contract renewal may have allowed the move, but it was planned out well in advance; they spent about a year rebuilding the north end of the DL&W in Syracuse to allow the move under the excuse of Ontrack. I think the first press run was in May of 1992 with the 142 and all the local dignitaries on board (check Railpace, they published my photo). It could even be they brought in other business first, I know that first train had an NS unit leading. Others turned up with you name it for power, even new BNSF units.Right. The Syracuse side needed a considerable investment before the trains could be moved. Prior to the Sealand Trains, the line only saw fairly limited local business. The move was part of the entire packaging including the purchase of the line from Jamesville to the connection with the Chicago Line, the upgrade of the trackage, the upgraded connections, the Ontrack project with the track to the new Syracuse Station, etc. It was quite involved.
I should do a "Trackside" book for that era.