• RXR Crossing signals China & Mexico

  • General discussion about railroad operations, related facilities, maps, and other resources.
General discussion about railroad operations, related facilities, maps, and other resources.

Moderator: Robert Paniagua

  by Robert Gift
 
The RXR Xing signals here in Yantai, China have a blue light in the middle below the two flashing red lights!

The blue illuminates until the signal operates. Then, it goes out.
(o)=(o)
....(o)


After the train has passed and the signals stop, the blue light comes on.

Since there are no advance warning signs, like our yellow round (RXR) signs, the blue lights indicate there is a railroad crossing ahead.
(Very noticeable at night!) The LED blue lights are a very rich pure blue.

Two crossings here have rope fences suspended horizontally above the road. They lower and completely block the road. I think they are NOT
automatic; I could not see any insulation in rail joints next to the road.
There were cars stored almost right up to the roadway.

Another crossing was operated by a watchman with a portable radio.
He switched on the signals, then switched on motor carts on tworail tracks which pull metal fences which telescope across the roadway.
I'll try to learn how to attach photos I took.

In Mexico City, near a pyramid looking bank building which houses a 47 bell carillon, ( I believe the building is closed after the Mexico City earthquake) is a watchman-controlled crossing.

But rather than the red lights blinking alternately left and right, both lights
on the same signal flash together. The signals flash alternately!
(Both red lights on one signal on, then both lights of the other on and the
first off.) (o)=(o)..................................................(o)=(o)

As soon as the engine crossed the roadway, the watchman turned off the signals, presumably to save electricity. Or maybe he didn't want to get up and walk back to the switch and turn it off.

The metal conductors of the wires to his switch were exposed and hanging on the outside of his little shanty. Totally slipshod.

Of course, as the engine entered the roadway, a green Volkwagen bug
taxi sped righthrough the crossing making the locomotivengineer angry.

  by Alloy
 
Interesting info to me, about those blue lights. I had never given much thought to how other countries protect their railroad crossings, before another thread on here about how British grade crossings have four gates instead of just two.

You're a long way from Denver, Mr. Gift!
  by keotaman
 
Robert Gift wrote: ... Of course, as the engine entered the roadway, a green Volkwagen bug
taxi sped righthrough the crossing making the locomotivengineer angry.
Would be nice to have a paintball gun in the nose -- then we could fire & mark them for later capture! :wink: ;-)

  by Robert Gift
 
Dear Mr. Wills,

What happened to all the wigwag signals I used to see in the Oakland area years ago?
Any still in use anywhere?

Since I have never heard of a wigwag signal mentioned in any driver's manuals, I wonder if someone hit by a train at a wigwag signaled crossing could claim they did not knowhathat swinging thing meant, and sue the state and railroad.

Mexican drivers/taxis do that crap all the time. I was surpised thathengineer even reacted. I would have expected it.

Thank you,

  by Robert Gift
 
Can someone teach me how to upload digital photos to this site?

I have photos of RR crossing signals and signs, and dwarf signals with WHITE (lunar) and BLUE lights.

Do they indicate the position of a switches?

Thank you,

  by DutchRailnut
 
You can not post directly to site, you can put pictures on a photo hosting site like: http://img475.imageshack.us/ and then link to the photo.
Try to keep picture links at max of 640 x 480 for proper viewing.

  by Robert Gift
 
Thanks, Nut.

Th.is all new to me. - even the digital camera.

  by GOLDEN-ARM
 
Robert Gift wrote:Can someone teach me how to upload digital photos to this site?

I have photos of RR crossing signals and signs, and dwarf signals with WHITE (lunar) and BLUE lights.

Do they indicate the position of a switches?

Thank you,
Already been answered, for you. LOOK in the top of the forums, and find the answers posted there already. Alos you might look in the photography thread, at this forum, Alos info there, with all your questions answered, as well. Good luck, hope to see some pix soon :-D

http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5479

http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4268

  by Alloy
 
What happened to all the wigwag signals I used to see in the Oakland area years ago?
Any still in use anywhere?
The most prominent ones were the pair that guarded a BNSF transfer track, in North Richmond. They were recently replaced by modern flashers and gates, but were left in place. They can be re-activated for special occasions, as a compromise that the local community worked out with the railroad.

From Wikipedia:
The wigwags at the crossing that mark the historic location of the western terminus of the BNSF in Richmond, California became pawns in a fight over local control in 2003.

The two upper-quadrant wigwags are the last of their kind paired together in active use and are on land that the BNSF would like to develop. The BNSF is also bowing to pressure from the state's transportation authority to upgrade the crossing to modern signals. Richmond is trying to preserve the grade crossing with historical designation and other planning tools.

According to information recently posted at Dan's Wigwag Site (trainweb.org/dansrailpix/wig_wag_page 1c.htm) the crossing will be updated with gates and flashers. In a highly unusual compromise, the wigwags will remain as non-operative decorations at the crossing.

In the interest of safety, signs will be posted at the wigwags stating that the signals are non-operational. They will retain the ability to be activated by a passing train, but only for special events.

  by Robert Gift
 
How wonderful!

Thanks for the news.

Usually just one wigwag was placed at a grade crossing.
As a compromise, it would be placed on the opposite side of the road .

For example, southbound lane would find it on their right, but beyond the track.
Northbound would find it one their side of the track, but on the left side of the road.

If someone was hit by a train, could they sue the state because drivers manuals do not explain what a wigwag signal means?