• Route 15 PCCs Are Back!

  • Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.
Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.

Moderator: AlexC

  by JeffK
 
From the Inky:

https://www.inquirer.com/transportation ... 40611.html

https://www.inquirer.com/transportation ... 30906.html


I wonder how much of a market (if any ...) there'd be for modern, everything-compliant trolleys that mimic the PCC design as closely as practical. I get the impression that for more than a few people, "PCC" and "streetcar" are synonyms.
  by AlexC
 
  by scratchyX1
 
JeffK wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:32 pm From the Inky:

https://www.inquirer.com/transportation ... 40611.html

https://www.inquirer.com/transportation ... 30906.html


I wonder how much of a market (if any ...) there'd be for modern, everything-compliant trolleys that mimic the PCC design as closely as practical. I get the impression that for more than a few people, "PCC" and "streetcar" are synonyms.
I'm pretty sure Brookfield offers this.
  by ExCon90
 
JeffK wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:32 pm From the Inky:

https://www.inquirer.com/transportation ... 40611.html

https://www.inquirer.com/transportation ... 30906.html


I wonder how much of a market (if any ...) there'd be for modern, everything-compliant trolleys that mimic the PCC design as closely as practical. I get the impression that for more than a few people, "PCC" and "streetcar" are synonyms.
I've heard that the compound curves that make the PCC design so attractive are now too expensive to construct and repair, resulting in the square corners we see in so many recent designs. Europeans, however, apparently have no problem with compound curves.
  by R36 Combine Coach
 
Could a modern new build replica PCC meet ADA regulations?
  by R36 Combine Coach
 
ExCon90 wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:30 pm I've heard that the compound curves that make the PCC design so attractive are now too expensive to construct and repair, resulting in the square corners we see in so many recent designs. Europeans, however, apparently have no problem with compound curves.
Just about every automobile has a curved body now.
  by RandallW
 
The compound curves in modern ground vehicles are typically non-structural body panels on a simpler, squarer frame, while (if I recall correctly) the curves in older vehicles like the PCC tend to be incorporated into the structure of the vehicle.
  by ExCon90
 
PCCs resumed service yesterday with 6 cars (buses are filling the gaps until more cars are available and crews qualified). Full-length color photo in today's Inquirer on front page above the fold, and nice story on page B1, including pleased comments from riders.
  by JeffK
 
chuchubob wrote: Tue Jun 18, 2024 7:47 am Sunday June 16 first day of PCC III service

http://chuchubob.rrpicturearchives.net/ ... id=6343310
http://chuchubob.rrpicturearchives.net/ ... id=6343311
http://chuchubob.rrpicturearchives.net/ ... id=6343312
SUPER pix, Bob!

I like seeing the "flying wing" emblem that pays homage to the PTC days, too.
  by AlexC
 
What is special about the PCCs or Route 15 that the PCCs are running only there?

Is it the comparatively longer route? or Callowhill Depot itself?


They can run anywhere on the system, right?
  by CNJGeep
 
AlexC wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:24 am What is special about the PCCs or Route 15 that the PCCs are running only there?

Is it the comparatively longer route? or Callowhill Depot itself?


They can run anywhere on the system, right?
They can not run in the tunnel in regular service, they do not have CBTC.

Conversely, K-Cars can not run on Rt. 15 (unless supplanted with buses) because they are not ADA-Accessible like the PCCs.