Rotem Cars Discussion (new bi-level cars)

I mean yeah, and now they are doing it on the Fairmount Line, so it wasn't for nothing. The new bilevels are for the rest of the system.

That presentation seems to be either mildly disingenuous or whoever made it didn't entirely understand the whole picture. For example, on the section about leasing electric locomotives for the first phase of running the Providence line under wire, why would "electric locomotives be freed up on Amtrak with the entry of the Avelia Liberty into service"? Amtrak isn't going to run more Acelas and less NE Regional trains. There will be no net loss of NE Regional trains that would free up electrics for lease. And it's not like the MBTA can lease the old Acela power cars to pull commuter trains.

The Airo trainsets will free up ACS-64s not needed for LD service. Amtrak's 2021-2026 Five Year Plan did state that increased Acela service and new NEC trainsets would displace ACS-64s, so a 2022 briefing could have cited that information.

By the time the T is ready for a large-ish order of EMUs (battery or otherwise), the K-cars will be up for retirement. With this order, the T is getting a standardized coach fleet at a pretty decent price. Even as an advocate for electrification I have a hard time getting upset about this.

Assuming such an order will ever even exist, for all we know, the K-Cars could just end up getting replaced by other push-pull equipment, just as how the single levels are right now.

Did the T exhaust all their Rotem options? Last time I looked they had left cars on the table because they didn't have the budget.

BandA wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2024 3:03 pm Did the T exhaust all their Rotem options? Last time I looked they had left cars on the table because they didn't have the budget.

The post here, from November 21, explains it: https://railroad.net/rotem-cars-discuss ... l#p1655955