Discussion related to New Jersey Transit rail and light rail operations.

Moderators: lensovet, Kaback9, nick11a

  by lensovet
 
Not enough trains that are operational and aren't breaking down all the time. Less frequent service requires less functional trains.

It works, they have cancelled no trains on some days and only one train on others, compared to 15-20 cancellations daily over the previous few weeks. However, the bus schedule is inconsistent (buses will sometimes leave ahead of schedule so you show up on time and you've missed it). Also, my train this morning had to reboot its engine twice, resulting in an arrival of 10 minutes behind schedule causing me to miss my Regional and take an NJT express instead.
  by lensovet
 
lmao, this trope again?

and the solution to someone struck by the train is reduced speeds? not paying attention to gates being down? maybe they should assign some of the sheriffs to hand out citations for walking around downed gates?
  by scratchyX1
 
lensovet wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:30 pm lmao, this trope again?

and the solution to someone struck by the train is reduced speeds? not paying attention to gates being down? maybe they should assign some of the sheriffs to hand out citations for walking around downed gates?
Yup,
Never mind that the police reports for most people arrested for those crimes show they steal a car, then drive to crime location.
Should we restrict auto usage , too?
  by Dcell
 
lensovet wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 8:30 pm lmao, this trope again?

and the solution to someone struck by the train is reduced speeds? not paying attention to gates being down? maybe they should assign some of the sheriffs to hand out citations for walking around downed gates?
The article is quoting the police about increased property crimes committed by criminals who arrive via the trains.
  by lensovet
 
There are no direct quotes that say that, because of course there is literally no way to prove this unless you have mass surveillance everywhere.
"Many people jump off the River LINE and aren't necessarily in town for the right reason.”
Okay chief, got any numbers to back that up?
“The impression of the officers and the [police] chiefs is that it’s very much a growing problem,” said state Sen. Troy Singleton (D-Burlington) who helped obtain state funding for the program.
Aha, the impression! Can we now arrest people based on impressions?

I love that not having to buy a ticket somehow makes it more likely that criminals will apparently use the train to steal packages off your porch. Because there's nothing like walking down the street with a giant package and lugging it to the river line station…and skimping on a $2 ticket! What idiot swipes packages off the porch and walks with them to the light rail? These people have cars where they can stash that stuff in their trunks and then transfer to another vehicle to prevent being caught.

A decade ago, Riverton had the 4th-lowest ridership on the entire line, beating only Delanco (by 3 passengers), Aquarium, and Entertainment Center. I doubt much has changed since then (unlike say Cinnaminson which saw the completion of its residential development next to that station). They aren't as much of a destination – for porch pirates or anyone else – as they think they are.
  by scratchyX1
 
Again, arrest stats show that people steal cars, to commit crimes. Using public transit as a get away vehicle generally happens if it's spur of moment, and the person is getting chased.
It sounds to be he's using Antidotal evidence, not statistical.
And er yeah, they have been arresting people based on "impressions" , for years.
  by lensovet
 
People steal cars to commit crimes because cars make it easier to commit them and stolen cars are harder to track.

A transit vehicle makes it harder to commit most crimes and gives you zero control over your escape, as it runs on a schedule (or frequently on something approximating a schedule).

Worse, a transit vehicle can be immediately stopped by police, at which point the criminal is either trapped and captured or decides to use an emergency exit and is no better off than running on foot. I guess we should ban running?
  by scratchyX1
 
Ban cars, just to be sure.
  by WashingtonPark
 
Got this "criminal" complaint when I was on the Gloucester City rail committee. We're on Camden's border and at the public meeting we have people complaining the train will bring drug pushers in. I said can't they take a bus? Can't they bike? Can't they drive in? They can walk for crying out loud. Made no difference. They train was the conveyance that would cause Gloucester City to be over run with undesirables. We were going to have fences put up, close some street crossings and make the other 4 no horn blowing crossings so this was the only argument they had left. They were furious with me that I wouldn't agree that the train line would destroy the town.