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 #1524506  by mcgrath618
 
My NHSL train left 69th, then stopped, lost power, and then backed into 69th again. The conductor told me that the third rail shoe broke.

Are the N5s mechanically unreliable, or is this a freak occurrence?
 #1524517  by MACTRAXX
 
MCG: Third rail shoes are designed to break clear in case of a contact problem between the third rail and the
truck assembly. A single car N5 has four third rail shoes - one on each side of the truck. Shoes are designed
to break protecting the shoe beam and power lead cables - and the rest of the truck itself.

This may have been a case of shoes on one side being broken off - for example as the result of an alignment
problem with a third rail approach section. Since third rail shoes make friction contact they wear out and do
need to be replaced on a term basis - worn shoes are more likely to break.

A single N5 car should be operable with one intact shoe on one side - the problem would be that all of the
car's power and amperage would be drawn over through that single shoe. If that intact single shoe breaks
off on a segment of third rail on that side the car will lose power instantly unless it can roll free to a third
rail segment on the other side of the track.

Replacing third rail shoes is an easy fix - during inspection shop work. Good thing the train operator caught
the problem at 69th Street...MACTRAXX
 #1528810  by rcthompson04
 
Seems like Amtrak’s summer/fall of work between Paoli and Thorndale hasn’t solved a host of issues with service being suspended a good portion of the day between Malvern and Thorndale due to damages wires and signals. This morning the switch just east of Paoli is being manually operated.
 #1549483  by AlexC
 
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2020/ ... ill-river/

If you had "barge loose on Schuylkill RIVER leads to regional rail delays" on your board, you may call BINGO now.
 #1581477  by rcthompson04
 
SEPTA is reporting trains will be boarding on outbound side between Highland Avenue and Darby on the Wilmington / Newark Line due to emergency bridge repairs. What is going on?
 #1599712  by rcthompson04
 
After a year of sensible Amtrak dispatching on the Paoli Thorndale Line, we had a pretty dumb one made this afternoon. With track three out of service at Overbrook to Bryn Mawr, Amtrak dispatched a SEPTA local train 3537 ahead of an express, 1593. This actually delayed both trains as a complicated passing had to occur at Bryn Mawr (never seen it done before over the last 14 years) with the local being held at Bryn Mawr and the express running around the local on track 3. Just didn’t make sense in light of the other combinations of these trains passing each other before.
 #1629491  by rcthompson04
 
I was impressed when I returned post COVID (June 2021) until Labor Day how much smoother the SEPTA service ran. The last few weeks have been a return to the SEPTA of old as a rider. Some of it has been related to the safety training, but most issues appear to be capacity, equipment and track issues.
 #1639256  by Jeff Smith
 
Amtrak misroute: CBSNews
SEPTA says Amtrak redirected a Regional Rail train to a dead track in Philadelphia

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) -- Riders aboard a SEPTA train headed into Philadelphia were stuck Thursday morning after the car was routed to the wrong track, a spokesperson confirmed to CBS News Philadelphia.
...
Andrew Busch, a SEPTA spokesperson, said Amtrak routed a Regional Rail train to a dead track that was not receiving power.
...
 #1639266  by AlexC
 
Jeff Smith wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:01 pm Amtrak misroute: CBSNews
SEPTA says Amtrak redirected a Regional Rail train to a dead track in Philadelphia

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) -- Riders aboard a SEPTA train headed into Philadelphia were stuck Thursday morning after the car was routed to the wrong track, a spokesperson confirmed to CBS News Philadelphia.
...
Andrew Busch, a SEPTA spokesperson, said Amtrak routed a Regional Rail train to a dead track that was not receiving power.
...
My question is ... was that track normally energized, just not this time, or was it never energized, not under wire. I'm sure somebody has more details beyond the paucity the media provides.
 #1639279  by MACTRAXX
 
JS and AC - The morning (February 22) RRD misroute was mentioned by 6ABC Action News:
This was Train #9206 from Newark terminating after Temple University (WIL/NRK Line with S4 MU cars)
(All stops from NRK 7:53 AM-except Eddystone-PM 8:55; 30 St 8:58; SS 9:03; JS 9:08; TU 9:12 AM)
https://6abc.com/septa-train-struck-dea ... a/14457922

Not knowing the exact location that the train lost overhead wire power (my device had problems playing
both videos) this may have been a misroute towards 30th Street lower level - or on to a track segment that
has the wire de-energized for structure or catenary work...This turned into a problem that inconvenienced
that entire trainload of passengers and brought scrutiny from Philadelphia media...

Bringing other equipment to transfer the passengers was the right thing to do in this situation - a rescue
locomotive would be needed to tow the MU cars to an energized track section restoring power and allowing
the train to finally clear the area. Best yet - no one was hurt or any equipment was damaged...MACTRAXX
 #1639320  by zebrasepta
 
MACTRAXX wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2024 9:25 pm Not knowing the exact location that the train lost overhead wire power (my device had problems playing
both videos) this may have been a misroute towards 30th Street lower level - or on to a track segment that
has the wire de-energized for structure or catenary work...This turned into a problem that inconvenienced
that entire trainload of passengers and brought scrutiny from Philadelphia media...
Apparently Amtrak misrouted the train to the track with no catenary wires.
https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/ne ... wark-line/
SEPTA says Amtrak redirected a Regional Rail train to a dead track in Philadelphia
Sort of reminds of when a Amtrak train went onto the Cynwyd Line years ago.
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