PRR equipment on the NH

Thanks Statkowski
I was wondering if this had a structural reason. It was probably a more expensive window detail which other railroads, including the New Haven and many interurban companies chose not to use. Glass did improve overtime including the development of laminated and tempered glazing.
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As for the Comet, the square windows help caused excessive shear stresses and metal fatigue to develop in the fuselages which resulted in the metal skin fracturing under pressure. The resulting structural failures were compounded by the fact that the skins were of insufficient gauge to take the stresses and that the method of punch riveting used by de Havilland in the manufacturing process induced further skin cracking.

[quote="chnhrr"I do remember in the past seeing some other photographs of some MP-54’s in faded Tuscan red parked at New Haven’s Union Station. I guess they were of an earlier fan trip.

Chuck[/quote]

As noted, I’ve come across some photos (both color and b/w) of a PRR MP-54 train at New Haven’s Union Station withe the cars in the Pennsylvania Tuscan red and ‘Keystone’ livery. Here is recent partial photo from a posting on eBay. I am assuming this is another fan trip earlier on in the Penn Central’s history or maybe even before the merger.

It might've been a fan trip given all the open windows.

Pennsy did test a GG1 to New Haven at least once. Did they also test MP54s? Possible too, I guess.

The thing is, Chris you're not saying where you're finding these photos so that makes its tougher to know.

Tommy Meehan wrote:It might've been a fan trip given all the open windows.

Pennsy did test a GG1 to New Haven at least once. Did they also test MP54s? Possible too, I guess.

The thing is, Chris you're not saying where you're finding these photos so that makes its tougher to know.

Hi Tommy. My name is Chuck not Chris

The last photo is an ebay posting, so there is little description and what is noted is incorrectly attributed to the New Haven. The other photos I have seen in the past of the MP-54s in New Haven I unfortunately did not save and make note of their origin.

Regards

Sorry Chuck. I know I have called you Chris before, too.

My R&LHS-NY Chapter meeting Friday night did not provide any leads as to a fan trip. Number one, not too many members showed up because of the weather. Second, I asked a couple of the guys but before they had a chance to think about it we got sidetracked.

If anyone knows Henry Deutch I'm fairly certain he was on at least one of the MP54 trips. (Alan Roberts probably too.) I can't get Henry by email in Florida. His in-box is overloaded.

TomNelligan wrote: What did visit New Canaan for a weekend display circa 1967 or 1968 was a 300-series EF4 freight motor. The town was having an anniversary celebration of some sort and the NH participated with a small equipment display at the station.

It was July 1968 --- as you said, an anniversary celebration. The two locomotives were a DERS-7 (U-25B) and an EF-4 (ex Virginian electric). I believe the U-25 did the pulling but i will not swear to that. There was a photo of it at New Canaan in an NHRHTA Shoreliner once.

In NHRHTA circles we have heard rumors over the years, so far unfounded, that a GG-1 made a trip up the New Cannan branch for some reason. it is known for sure that one test-ran from Penn Station to New Haven back in 1963, or 64, or thereabouts. Did it go to New Canaan? Who knows

Another thus far unfounded rumor is that a New Haven Ep-5 electric ran up the branch at least once in regular service. We have never found any documentation of this. As far we know the operation of electric engine-hauled passenger trains ended in the summer of 1954 with the delivery of the last 4400-series "washboard" MUs. Prior to that date there was one daily engine-hauled round trip (trains 331-332).

The only ones who could comment for sure about later use of electric motors on that branch are those who are having their eternal rest at St. John's Cemetery ("Springdale Cemetery"), which the branch runs through the middle of. Those folks never miss a train. However, one would have to consult a medium to learn anything from them. That is a practice we have never thought about trying at an NHRHTA event

So far as I know GG-1's never made it to New Canaan either before or after the takeover. There have been photos of the event with the EF-4. So far as I am aware the Pennsy MU's made it to New Haven one or more times on specials but they were never used in regular service on the New Haven.
Noel Weaver