JoeG wrote:I keep making that mistake! Right, Nick, they would not go to Secaucus. The NYP passengers would have to change at Newark or Dover to a Midtown Direct train. I'm too used to my daily commute thru Secaucus.Haha. No problem Joe.
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Tri-State Tom wrote:Cut-off service would likely take one of 2 forms....Yeah, they are. Scary- but cool for train pictures. When it snows, I'll be out on the nearest rail line photographing whether it be the NEC or MnE.
1) Trains beginning/ending runs at Dover with transfers to/from Morristown line/Montclair-Boonton line trains.
or
2) Trains beginning/ending runs at Hoboken with transfers to/from Morristown line/Montclair-Boonton line trains via stops at Dover and Newark-Broad Street stations.
Nice avatar there nick....those days almost here again, eh ?
nick11a wrote:Never photographed any other line but the Main and the Bergen under snow... I should really get out there... NEC in snow conditions would be pretty awesome. The vacum behind those trains can start up a snow storm of its own...Tri-State Tom wrote:Cut-off service would likely take one of 2 forms....Yeah, they are. Scary- but cool for train pictures. When it snows, I'll be out on the nearest rail line photographing whether it be the NEC or MnE.
1) Trains beginning/ending runs at Dover with transfers to/from Morristown line/Montclair-Boonton line trains.
or
2) Trains beginning/ending runs at Hoboken with transfers to/from Morristown line/Montclair-Boonton line trains via stops at Dover and Newark-Broad Street stations.
Nice avatar there nick....those days almost here again, eh ?
cjvrr wrote:The main reason the Cutoff and office buildings were/are constructed so quickly is due to the fact they are privately funded. Years ago it wasn't the case for the public sector but no public funding use must be justified and tracked to the Nth degree. loansTaber mentions the Cut-Off in his 20th century book. It helps when the governor, and the politicans are on your payroll. Makes things a lot easier. The railroad presented its alignment, and the state agreed, immediately.
Lackawanna484 wrote:My suspicion is NJT has many, many things ahead of the Cut-Off on its plate. The roadbed and bridge aren't going anywhere, so sit tight.Agreed... NJT does seem to be kind abusy one day, and as if now, the demand is still not looking strong enough for the people to be begging for an alternate form of transit.
Lackawanna484 wrote:Safety was minimal, workers lives were cheap and easily replaced. Same as on the trains...
sullivan1985 wrote:Remember, the cost will just keep escalating, so we're all better off spending 2010 dollars than 2020 dollars on such a huge project. What's the difference in cost on constructing the new Hudson River tunnel between when it was originally conceived and now? How much more would it cost now to build a twin to the Goethals Bridge than to have done it back in the 1930s when they built the first one? How much more will it cost to build the additional on/off ramps from I-78 to the GSP, the ones they didn't build in the 1960s when they were expecting to run I-278 from Springfield to Elizabeth?Lackawanna484 wrote:My suspicion is NJT has many, many things ahead of the Cut-Off on its plate. The roadbed and bridge aren't going anywhere, so sit tight.Agreed... NJT does seem to be kind abusy one day, and as if now, the demand is still not looking strong enough for the people to be begging for an alternate form of transit.
But every year, more and more people are flocking to the country side of NJ and PA and one day, the Cut-Off will happen. Maybe sooner or later than the expected 2010 that transit told us on its project page, but it will happen...