by mainetrain
What is the difference in the distance between Passaic Junction and say Campbell Hall, (susy Q vs. Erie)? Seems that the Susy Q is much longer and with many more hills to conquer.
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Passaic River Rat wrote:Here is a question I occasionally ponder:although many people will enjoy that...i think there are a few problems with that.
Why doesn't the NYSW run via up the Bergen County Line via to Binghamton via Suffern. I know the tracks belong to NJT. But....
Most of the properties sold by Conrail to NJT retained a stipulation that Conrail, its successors, and ASSIGNS (emphasis added by me) retain perpetual easements along the properties sold (aka trackage rights)
So, if NS owns the trackage rights, and they have the right to assign these trackage rights, why isn't the NYS&W paying NS to operate over the shorter route? If NS was willing to lease the Southern Tier east of BH to NYS&W, why not throw in the NJT portion?
Isn't this how the Morristown & Erie got trackage rights all over NJT?
waldwickrailfan wrote:1) the SU-99 leaves in the beginning/middle of rush hour. imagine a freight train running in rush hour...on friday.The reason they leave at 5-5:30P on the SU99 is because they are estimating that by the time the train reaches HJ (CP Hudson Junction), NJT 61 will already be through. This will allow for the SU99 to be held at CP Hall on the siding. If they have a short train with good power, they could run as far west as Otisville behind NJT 61 where both trains will wait for NJT 68 to clear. If the train is long and heavy, they will get held east of Sarah Wells Trail and wait for NJT 68 to clear CP Hudson Jct. NJT dispatchers will not let SU99 ahead of passenger trains unless there is a sufficient time gap between them.
waldwickrailfan wrote:2) the SU-100 will come through in the beginning of the morning rush. that could get people to work late. and it will block 2 tracks crossing over to get to NYSW tracks in Saddle Brook.Same goes for the SU100. The train could just be simply scheduled to leave Binghamton at another time of day to avoid the problems of rush hour traffic.
Passaic River Rat wrote:Here is a question I occasionally ponder:Your question there alone should be a good reason why NYSW doesn't do it. Why pay someone else to use the tracks when you can simply use the ones you already own?
So, if NS owns the trackage rights, and they have the right to assign these trackage rights, why isn't the NYS&W paying NS to operate over the shorter route? If NS was willing to lease the Southern Tier east of BH to NYS&W, why not throw in the NJT portion?
Isn't this how the Morristown & Erie got trackage rights all over NJT?