BuddCar711 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 27, 2022 6:41 pm
Well the townhall went well, and there was overwhelming support for the subway. They had a poll, and the choices were:
DO NOT CHANGE
SUBWAY
MORE BUS ROUTES
ELEVATED RAILWAY
DNC received 0 votes
SUBWAY was the overwhelming winner with ER coming in at 2nd and MBR received a few votes. They should throw the idea for a monorail out the window (a monorail would be good for downtown for the tourists, but for heavy transit, no). Somone in the audience did point out that there should have been a SEPTA representative in the panel. Of course there was at least one NIMBY, but the the support is there.
BC (and Everyone) -
What I believe that the choices for SUBWAY and ELEVATED on the Roosevelt Boulevard route actually meant -
SUBWAY would be an extension of the BROAD STREET LINE
ELEVATED would be an extension of the MARKET-FRANKFORD LINE
Tunnel segments would be built to connect the BSL or aerial structures for the MFL
to access the median of Roosevelt Boulevard from either of these two routes...
This new route is to be constructed primarily using the open median strip of Roosevelt Boulevard.
The type of construction would be similar to (best local example) the Spring Garden Station on the
Market-Frankford Line which opened in 1977 in the median of I-95 near Center City...
Chicago pioneered the use of limited access highway median strips to construct rapid transit lines with
the Congress (now Eisenhower) Expressway route in 1958 - today's CTA Blue Line to Forest Park.
The Dan Ryan (Red) Line in I-94 south between Cermak-Chinatown and 95/State opened in 1969.
The Kennedy (Blue) Line extension - which is a combination of both subway and median strip route was
opened in 1970 between Logan Square and Jefferson Park - and then extended to O'Hare Airport in 1984.
Baltimore has a segment of the Metro Subway between Old Court and Owings Mills in the median strip
of I-795 Northwest Expressway at the northwestern end of the route.
Washington has Metro routes in Virginia in median strips with part of the Orange Line to Vienna in I-66
and a major segment of the new Silver Line to Dulles Airport runs in the median of the Dulles Toll Road.
A Northeast Subway that would be built totally under ground or on aerial structures above Roosevelt
Boulevard would both be astronomically expensive - a primarily surface rail route using the median
strip routing would have a lower cost and in this case makes the most sense to construct a new rapid
transit line into the heart of Northeast Philadelphia...MACTRAXX
EXPRESS TRAIN TO NEW YORK PENN STATION-NO JAMAICA ON THIS TRAIN-PLEASE STAND CLEAR OF THE CLOSING TRAIN DOORS