SEPTA Cancels CRRC multi level order (Was:SEPTA to get multi-level railroad coaches)

mcgrath618 wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 7:12 pm I actually think that Multilevel EMUs are a terrible idea. Hopefully now SEPTA can pursue other alternatives.

Whatever happened to the Silverliner VI? Is that the name for the bilevel CRRC coaches, the Bi-level EMUs being discussed here, a new single-level design based on the Silverliner V, or amfleets converted into Metroliner EMUS??? (The last one is a joke. )

Silverliner VIs are the tack-on option SEPTA has on the back of NJT’s Bombardier bi-level EMU order.

So with ridership down due to COVID-19 is there even a purpose of continuing this order and what even is the status of this order now?

zebrasepta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:24 pm So with ridership down due to COVID-19 is there even a purpose of continuing this order and what even is the status of this order now?

The Multi Level Coaches have been delayed for a long time and was supposed to come this year but they're coming next year in 2022 and from a article in june or july states that CRRC will be building the coaches this year and seems that haven't started on the rest of the fleet this whole time

Also I talked to a septa worker on instagram about the Silverliner 6/Multi level EMU and he said that septa is not buying that cause that would require millions of dollars to spent on redoing all the tunnels especially university city tunnel that dumps into 30th street station and the suburban to jefferson southern limit curve

Hopefully the Multilevel EMU idea is dead. The idea seemed even worse than the less than attractive option of having more push pull single level sets.

Silverliner5 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:32 pm Also I talked to a septa worker on instagram about the Silverliner 6/Multi level EMU and he said that septa is not buying that cause that would require millions of dollars to spent on redoing all the tunnels especially university city tunnel that dumps into 30th street station and the suburban to jefferson southern limit curve

They would not need to do anything to the tunnels because the the multilevel EMU's, whatever they end up being, fit within the same clearance envelopes as the multilevel push-pull coaches currently on order. Weight might be more of a concern, however.

rcthompson04 wrote: ↑Wed May 27, 2020 6:47 am Silverliner VIs are the tack-on option SEPTA has on the back of NJT’s Bombardier bi-level EMU order.

Not sure how I missed the notification for this one, but oh well. Anyway, no, Silverliner VI is NOT the tack-on option SEPTA has on the back of the NJT Bombardier order. The option is there, but SEPTA has no obligation to use it, either. As of now, regarding Silverliner VI, literally anything still goes at this time... and funding is not yet identified for an order.

I was looking at the Capital budget of 2022 and the coaches are slated to be coming in march of this year

west point wrote:Are the new cars able to be taller than NJT?

They are slightly taller by 2 inches in this ref sheet here https://www.crrcma.com/product/passenge ... ef=coaches

Is this for express service only? Would make sense for it. Hopefully the silverliner VI will not be a double decker but some emu with closed gangways. Like European trains

Unpopular opinion but it's time to move on from the stainless steel look. That livery just seems dated.

Mod Note: Moved the recent fleet talks to the “Future of the Fleet” topic.

Two prototype Double Decker coaches will be here in July this year and it seems that shells are ready to be shipped to Boston but will be at Newark or New York Ports for a truck to take it to CRRC for final assembly and then more will come through this year and last ones in Fall of 2023

https://www.inquirer.com/transportation ... 40412.html

SEPTA out $50 million after it cancels CRRC order.

Good grief. MBTA should be next.