wigwagfan wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 11:00 pmAnyone relying upon FY20 and FY21 to plan for Amtrak's futures is wrong. I'm not going to say these numbers do not exist, but can we not agree that they are not normal?Alphaboi wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:52 pmPassengers in sleeping cars subsidize passengers in coach, not the other way around.I'd like to know what kind of Common Core math is used to describe how a sleeping car passenger can subsidize a coach passenger when the December 2020 YTD results for the long distance trains show Amtrak only earning $54.5 million in revenue on $169.7 million in expenses.
Let's look at the Silver Meteor's revenues from an earlier year.
https://www.railpassengers.org/site/ass ... 459/19.pdf
Coach (Sleeper) Total
Passengers 308,983 (40,442) 349,425
Average trip 509 miles (928 miles) 558 miles
Average fare $ 85.00 ($302.00) $110.00
Avg yld per mi 16.6¢ (32.5¢) 19.7¢
The bottom line is that Amtrak yields (not gross but net) twice as much money per mile from sleeper car passengers than coach passengers.
And for those who wish to see how bad Amtrak's ridership hit has been during covid, just surf to
http://media.amtrak.com/wp-content/uplo ... ership.pdf
Generally, around a 39% loss in ridership.
