article in today's brattleboro reformer:
https://www.reformer.com/local-news/bra ... faa20.html
https://www.reformer.com/local-news/bra ... faa20.html
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urr304 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:44 pm I do see that they are in what was the Union Station, it looks like just a basement but is the track level, the street level is a museum now and looks like it was waiting room and ticket office. A lot of stations were multiple level due to space and elevation differences.If you check out this photo, you can see a large picture window with newish looking concrete surrounding it. This is where an elevated walkway used to continue out, with stairs down to 2 platforms. I'm guessing it was sometime in the late 1960s, following the demise of passenger service in Vermont, when this walkway was removed and the window put in place. Amtrak has used the basement level, accessible just to the right of the locomotive, since it restored service to VT in the early 70s. The platform is also used for some limited parking, and the stop is an engine crew change point. The platform is extra low... not even at rail height. Couple that with the adjacent bridge to NH, and traffic backs up well into NH at train time.
Arborwayfan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:02 pm Mattoon, Illinois, still is. It used to serve the IC downstairs and the Big 4/NYC upstairs at street level; only the IC tracks are left, but you still enter the station at street level and go down.For what it's worth, although Brattleboro was a "Union" station that wasn't because this was a junction, per se. The B&M operated between Brattleboro and White River Junction over the CV on trackage rights. South of Brattleboro the B&M/CV collaborated on an early example of directional running as far as East Northfield, with the B&M on the east side of the river handling northbound traffic and the CV on the west side handling southbound, if I recall correctly. The only reason the station is on two levels is geographic-- all of Brattleboro is built on a steep hill sloping down to the river, and the tracks are on the riverbank.
hrsn wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:08 pm From a local online publication, a look at the site plan: https://www.ibrattleboro.com/wp-content ... 00x375.jpgHigher def design drawings (including a site plan, floor plan, and parking lot elevation) were posted by Trains In The Valley in this post earlier today
Ridgefielder wrote:Thanks. I thought that was what was going on -- why a fairly small down had a concourse out over the tracks, also -- the passengers were coming in above track level anyway. I was thinking that with the upper-level tracks gone, Mattoon looks about the Brattleboro would have when the whole Brattleboro station was in use, not that Brattleboro once had tracks. A better match, although much bigger, would be St Paul, Minn., where the city is on a bluff over the river and the tracks are twenty or thirty feet down, closer to the river. The topography and the station are pretty much just Brattleboro x 2.5 in all dimensions except the gauge (and except for the name: Brattleboro Union Station, St. Paul Union Depot, which always makes me think of something more like what you see in Windsor or Glenn&Jackson ).Arborwayfan wrote: ↑Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:02 pm Mattoon, Illinois, still is. It used to serve the IC downstairs and the Big 4/NYC upstairs at street level; only the IC tracks are left, but you still enter the station at street level and go down.For what it's worth, although Brattleboro was a "Union" station that wasn't because this was a junction, per se. The B&M operated between Brattleboro and White River Junction over the CV on trackage rights. South of Brattleboro the B&M/CV collaborated on an early example of directional running as far as East Northfield, with the B&M on the east side of the river handling northbound traffic and the CV on the west side handling southbound, if I recall correctly. The only reason the station is on two levels is geographic-- all of Brattleboro is built on a steep hill sloping down to the river, and the tracks are on the riverbank.