MACTRAXX wrote:The Metro-North M3s are OLDER then the LIRR cars are. 1984-85 was when the MNCR fleet was built - 1985-86 is when the LIRR fleet was built. The MNCR fleet was always well keptThe first MNCR M-3As were actually built in 1983 but delivered out of order. As for delivery dates, the 1988 LIRR carload report has M-3 delivery totals from Budd 1984-1986 on page 9 under "Corona", as Budd delivered all M-3s direct from Red Lion to Willets Point. 226 delivered in 1984, 34 1985 and 76 in 1986 (should be an error, as total is 336, not actual 316 MNCR/LIRR combined). Most likely 206 delivered 1984 (including all 142 MNCR), 34 in '85 and 76 in '86.
and as you note were overhauled. The wear and tear on the LIRR M3 fleet has taken its toll.
The LIRR M3s have a date stenciled on the handbrake housing that by and large is still readable: New Budd or TA (Transit America) with 1985 and 1986 new dates.
Since my friend continues to chain smoke nonstop, she is probably an Alco.