Sure ... But who would have ever guessed it would be this close???
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gokeefe wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:31 pm Take another look at that fact sheet. Roanoke is producing more passengers than Norfolk. Unreal ...I think you're missing the aspect of the tidewater region. Newport News and Norfolk are a comparative stone's throw apart. As such, someone can look at the schedule and their transportations options and decide which station they wish to use. If you add NPN into the equation, the tidewater region dwarfs the Roanoke numbers.
ThirdRail7 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:46 amAdditionally, check out WBG. I figured 94's schedule change would have a significant impact on ridership and it shows. I can only imagine what ridership would look like if WBG didn't have a later departure on weekends.afiggatt wrote:I included DC. To give you an idea, let's say there are 30 riders boarding at NFK. 14 would travel north of DC, 10 would travel to DC and 6 would travel to points in VA.ThirdRail7 wrote: There isn't much intrastate travel coming from NFK or PTB. The vast majority of the riders are through passengers.The Norfolk service started just before the holiday travel period which would distort the numbers. The February, March, April numbers should provide a better view of what the trip patterns for Norfolk look like as the service becomes established. In this case, does through passengers include NFK-WAS or just those going north of DC?
Trains will run almost every hour between Washington and Richmond - including Main Street Station downtown - within 10 years under a deal between Virginia and CSX Corp. that will open the gateway for expanded rail service in the region and other parts of the state.Now the question? How will CSX route their traffic?
The blockbuster $3.7 billion agreement that Gov. Ralph Northam and CSX announced on Thursday will give Virginia control over hundreds of miles of railroad track and underlying right-of-way in three rail corridors, including the former RF&P line that parallels Interstate 95 between Richmond and Washington. It will not expand the two-track rail line that runs through Ashland, which the state already has promised to preserve.
Gilbert B Norman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 4:41 pm Wow!Sounds to me like the RFP has now been split in half. CSX will keep its double tracks (and the existing Long Bridge) and VADOT will keep any existing 3rd track and plans to build out the third (and fourth after the new Long Bridge opens) tracks alongside existing. The purchase price includes cash for the new Long Bridge.
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Trains will run almost every hour between Washington and Richmond - including Main Street Station downtown - within 10 years under a deal between Virginia and CSX Corp. that will open the gateway for expanded rail service in the region and other parts of the state.Now the question? How will CSX route their traffic?
The blockbuster $3.7 billion agreement that Gov. Ralph Northam and CSX announced on Thursday will give Virginia control over hundreds of miles of railroad track and underlying right-of-way in three rail corridors, including the former RF&P line that parallels Interstate 95 between Richmond and Washington. It will not expand the two-track rail line that runs through Ashland, which the state already has promised to preserve.
Station Aficionado wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:35 pm This is fantastic news. No more bridge “slots.” According to an email I received, the state is also buying the ex-C&O from Doswell to Clifton Forge.This could potentially lead to Virginia improving capacity on the BBRR to allow for a daily Cardinal!
With the freight roads (except BNSF)besotted with PSR, maybe more line will come into public ownership.
Alex M wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:53 am At one time, Virginia once owned a part of the old RF&P. Maybe they should have purchased the rest of it and leased it to CSX when they had the chance.Conrail also owned a piece of it through its PRR heritage. It would have been very nice if the STB had assigned that ownership stake to Amtrak at the Conrail breakup.
orulz wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2019 9:43 am There are so many branches south of Richmond (four: A-line to Rocky Mount/Fayetteville/Charleston/Savannah, Peninsula Subdivision to Newport News, the Norfolk line, and future S-line to Raleigh) that hourly service to Richmond actually seems weak: which line gets the best slot that arrives in DC in the 8:00 am hour?Seems like a Richmond train would win the 8am slot, anywhere beyond would have to depart at 4am or earlier. Maybe a Roanoke train around 9, with Peninsula and Norfolk service drifting in around 10, and in the future Raleigh around 11? The LDs would be... somewhere, but I don’t know where.
ARLINGTON, Va. — The Commonwealth of Virginia and CSX Transportation have reached a deal on a $3.7-billion plan that will address rail congestion south of Washington D.C. by separating passenger and freight operations, allowing for a significant expansion of passenger and commuter rail services.
The agreement announced Thursday will create a new, state-owned Long Bridge over the Potomac River, for exclusive use by passenger and commuter rail; lead to state acquisition of more than 225 miles of track and 350 miles of rail right-of-way; and include 37 miles of track improvements, including a passenger-train flyover between Franconia and Springfield, Va