by nightmare403
from what ive seen so far there is a program for the 85 to American dream because the nabi's have the side speakers but the display doesnt show
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Ken W2KB wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:02 pmHmm. Five minutes. Doesn't sound to me like that's worth a billion or so, crossing Route 3... Or maybe they could just build an elevated loop in the parking lot, perhaps circling around the football stadium, connecting back to the existing Meadowlands spur.pumpers wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:14 pm Got it. I surmised that this was different from the Secaucus loop, but was trying to understand how it would increase service. Now I know - by avoiding the time for the crew to change ends, mainly.My recollection / estimate is that the time to conduct the tests when the NJT crew changes ends at High Bridge station is about 5 minutes.
So now I ask - how long does that take? Are there a new set of tests, e.g. brake tests, or some other long procedure when they switch ends?
EuroStar wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:06 pm The loop referred to in the article is a long forgotten proposal to continue the Meadowlands line from its terminus with a bridge over Route 3 and then merge back into the Bergen Line via a grade separated junction just before the bridge over the Hackensack River. The idea of such a loop is to avoid switching ends by the crew at the Meadowlands in order to speed up service to subway level frequencies. I am not sure if this was coupled with some other loop or another way to turn the trains quickly on the other side of Secaucus. In any case, the idea of such a loop predates me, and I do not know the details of the proposal.There's an official map on the interwebs somewhere about this old proposal. The map also suggests that a connection be built to the West Shore Line across the Meadows to link it to the Hoboken division. Map must have been made right before the 2008 stock market crash and the Christie years...
Ken W2KB wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:02 pmThis is true, but your dealing with a union so that 5 minutes takes thirty to an hour.pumpers wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2019 1:14 pm Got it. I surmised that this was different from the Secaucus loop, but was trying to understand how it would increase service. Now I know - by avoiding the time for the crew to change ends, mainly.My recollection / estimate is that the time to conduct the tests when the NJT crew changes ends at High Bridge station is about 5 minutes.
So now I ask - how long does that take? Are there a new set of tests, e.g. brake tests, or some other long procedure when they switch ends?
EuroStar wrote: ↑Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:01 am The lower level at Secaucus has no ability to take frequent shuttles back and forth while accommodating the current level of service on the other tracks. Have you ever been at the lower level when they run concert or game shuttles? All regularly scheduled service comes on a single track and the delays and confusion are horrendous. There is a good reason why nobody is proposing finishing the long forgotten Meadowlands loop. The better known reason is that it is expensive, but the second and also very important reason is that even with the loop, they still cannot run frequent enough service due to limitations at Secaucus.Well, also NJT's original messaging, maps, and indications of the Meadowlands Line before it opened was that it would be its own "line" originating all trains from Hoboken, which IS designed to turn and service trains. That sort of happened at first. Does anyone know if ANY Meadowlands Line trains originate at Hoboken anymore?, maybe one or two an event?