New Cars for the SIRT

Why aren't there any plans to use M9's for the SIRT which are being delivered to the LIRR. Since the SIRT is technically a railroad under FRA control, these cars would fit the bill perfectly. They could divert 35-40 cars for use there. In the 1970s when they were awaiting the R44s, LIRR MP72s were put into service.

SIRT is a stepchild of NYCTA and is isolated from the National Network,from the east end of Arlington yard to St George is torn up
and long gone. All rolling stock is barged to/from the Island.
They have new cars on order,and will be tweaked for use on SIRT as the R-46's were.

SIRT, despite being FRA, runs subway-style service at subway-style frequencies.

Thought the order for new equipment for the SIRT was cancelled. Know that it's cut off from the national rail network. Been that way for decades. The bridge to NJ reopened a few years ago but the northern branch that connected Arlington to St George was abandoned in the late 1950's. It's reconstruction has been tied up in politics since the MTA took over the SIRT. Askin about the equipment replacement. M7's or M9's would be excellent replacements. As it is, THEY are glorified subway cars, rapid acceleration abd deceleration.

The R211S order is most definitely not cancelled. Back in 2009, the original R179 contracts contained options for 80 cars for Staten Island, but these options were not exercised (and a good thing, since the R179 is still being delivered).

SIRY is freight only and reaches a few industries around Arlington yard,believe the line to the Con-Ed generating station is OOS/torn up,was the last
coal fired Generator in NYC Limits. Has the only Active Cardboard/Paper Recycling with rail access on the Island.
While there's a running repair shop at St George,Believe all heavy repair is barged back to one of NYCTA's shops with water access by barge.
It would be many times more $$$$ to barge any M-series Pairs to Harmon or to Bay Ridge (Diesel tow to Hillside shop) for heavy repairs.
R2115's for SIRT will be tweaked as needed,and have much closer shop support from NYCTA.

Backshophoss wrote:While there's a running repair shop at St George,Believe all heavy repair is barged back to one of NYCTA's shops with water access by barge. It would be many times more $$$$ to barge any M-series Pairs to Harmon or to Bay Ridge (Diesel tow to Hillside shop) for heavy repairs. R211's for SIRT will be tweaked as needed,and have much closer shop support from NYCTA.

SIRT equipment is no longer barged or carfloated. NYCT tows R44s on trailers over Verrazano to SBK yard in Sunset Park/Industry City, then hauled by SBK to Coney Island.

Had the rest of the North Shore trackage been in service, the SIRT fleet could have crossed the AK bridge and have the heavy overhaul work done at MMC under contract.

I do hope that if the north shore is reactivated, it's done in a way where the SIRT can reconnect to the mainland.

I hope that those SIRT R44 cars are replaced sooner rather than later. They should have been replaced a little while ago.

Backshophoss wrote: ↑Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:54 pm SIRT is a stepchild of NYCTA and is isolated from the National Network,from the east end of Arlington yard to St George is torn up
and long gone. All rolling stock is barged to/from the Island.
They have new cars on order,and will be tweaked for use on SIRT as the R-46's were.

Actually they never tore up the track; most of it is still there, nature has just taken over. Some of the line near St. George that was built on fill at the edge of the Kill Van Kull is washed out.