by philipmartin
So "the Hunter flyover may currently be in Preliminary Engineering." Isn't that interesting.
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kilroy wrote:How about building the flyover to start just west of the current NEC bridge, cross over the NEC and drop it into the Waverly-7 yard? You would probably have to rebuild the entire yard but there's not that much left of it and Amtrak might be able to get space someplace else, like the old storage yard behind where Hunter stood.I read somewhere that the yard operations there may be consolidated with adams MOW facility in relation to midline loop reconfiguration. This wouldallow something to be built through the current yard area nce it was no longer used by amtrak?
Don31 wrote:The Hunter Flyover would start (railroad) west of the existing Lehigh Line bridge, in the vicinity of the Hunter Pocket Track/Hunter Connecting Track, cross the NEC and terminate on Track 0/Track 1 adjacent to the old Hunter Street Produce Yard. When the Route 21 Viaduct was replaced, the new structure was designed substantially higher, so clearance won't be an issue. I believe its currently in Preliminary Engineering.1. When would this likely get built?
ryanov wrote:What I find interesting is that they're running additional New York trains (75xx) for this at :48 after from Newark Penn.Just from NWK to NYP? Transfer?
25Hz wrote:Ryanov and 25HZ: This does not surprise me in the least remembering that NWK-NYP "shuttles" were once ran during every weekday rush hour back in the 70s into the 80s...ryanov wrote:What I find interesting is that they're running additional New York trains (75xx) for this at :48 after from Newark Penn.Just from NWK to NYP? Transfer?
ryanov wrote:I am surprised there were slots available. Allegedly on the weekend, this has been a problem, and lately, there has been single tracking that has been delaying the whole schedule. No 76xx's have been running lately though, so maybe the 75xx's are taking their place.No. With the single tracking going on, there is no tunnel outage. The 75XX's fit in a slot that wouldn't normally work when the tunnels are being worked on. Also, the 75XX's ONLY ran because of a bus bridge program going on the RVL. This was discussed before, the busses would get to Newark after the last NYC bound train departed, hence why a shuttle train operated for the RVL passengers as not to delay them any more.
A spokeswoman for NJ Transit said that the one-seat expansion was brought up during the meeting as part of the director's report.
"As the agency begins to plan its Fiscal Year 2016 budget, we found that the nearly $600,000 in additional annual cost to operate this service presents a real monetary challenge, given the current very tight fiscal constraints facing NJ Transit and the State, and the need to budget responsibly," the report reads.
According to the report, the agency plans to look for other funding sources, potentially including the same type of federal money that paid for the addition of one-seat service to the Jersey Shore earlier this year.
Originating in High Bridge, Raritan Valley trains travel through Hunterdon, Somerset, Middlesex and Union counties.
The line is not electrified, so passengers take diesel trains to Newark Penn Station. There, they board an electric-powered train, because diesel ones can't operate in the tunnel under the Hudson River.
pumpers wrote:I am moving my post here from the "Capital Projects" thread:Nothing like some hard statistics arrived at with such keywords as "I guess". You're also assuming that every one of your new riders is paying the highest possible fare from Raritan to NYP which is never a smart idea when running projections. Just saying...
Well, from the linked article, they are talking like they have a $600,000 problem (per year I assume). The article also says with the off-peak service so far they have 60 more daily riders. If they expand to some peak service, they could easily pick up 100 more riders I guess, based on the 60 for off-peak. Assuming $28.50 round trip (Somerville) - 100 riders alone would be over $700,000/yr right there. Hope I did my math right.
Easy to be an armchair quarterback... JS