DiscoveryAnalysis wrote:Sand Box John wrote:The is what posted at Greater Greater Washington.
"I have no problem with the East, West, North, South as it follows the Kelly Johnson KISS (Keep It Simple Stuped) rule,
Operationally the tracks are also labeled inbound and outbound with Metro Center, Red, Blue, Orange and Silver and Gallery Place Green and Yellow being the center points of the routes."
"As to the map, I say stick with the single circle, narrow the line widths so the single circle touches all 3 lines where applicable and the same size circle is bigger then the width of the single lines."
I think Inbound and Outbound can work provided there is an emphasis place on Metro Center and Galley Place as being the geographic centers of the lines mentioned above.
As to MACTRAXX issue over using East, West, North, South. New Carrollton and Vienna are East and West of each other' Largo and Springfield-Franconia, Largo and Wiehle - Reston are as well. Branch Avenue and Greenbelt are North and South of each other, Greenbelt and Springfield-Franconia are as well. Now the issue with the Red line, railroads in this country from the day the first foot of track was laid have been labeled East, West or North, South. To my knowledge all of the railroads use either East, West or North, South not both regardless of the actual compass direction of the right of way. Being that Metro Center is the geographic center of the railroad (mile post zero) and WMATA has chosen to use both East, West and North, South it would make sense to me to label the Red line East, West.
One of the things I noticed in the horizontal wall mounted strip map example in the Riders' Advisory Council presentation is the strip map at ever platform for a given line or lines will be the same with the color of the station name inverted for the name of station the map is displayed in. I don't like that, I think the strip map should only display the names of the stations the platform normally serves. I also noticed there were no examples of a vertical pylon strip map. Something that I believe should retained as their text size draws people seeking way finding information out of the path of passenger moving along the platforms.
I also would rather see Inbound/Outbound used. The whole directional plan would confuse occasional riders even more. For example to give directions from Crystal City to Smithsonian. " Take an inbound BL train to Smithsonian or inbound YL to L'Enfant & transfer to an inbound train for one stop to Smithsonian."
As for the directional signs create a hybrid design, add inbound & outbound along with the terminal stations, this would also address the concern at Metro Center & Gallery Place by labeling all trains as Outbound along with the terminal. Example would be Outbound/ Glenmont or Outbound/ Reston, Franconia, & Vienna
DA: I totally disagree here - I would rather see signs NOT using the terms Inbound and Outbound...
I feel that those terms should be only used on stub-end lines that have a terminal in a central or downtown area and in my opinion
you further confuse riders by using those terms because at some point Inbound has to become Outbound...
With major parts of Metro's trunk lines downtown using Inbound and Outbound becomes even more of a problem and using compass
directions - even though geographically it could be problematic - would literally make more sense...
I agree with SBJ's thought of KISS - keeping it as simple as possible...
Directional Sign Examples - Red Line at Bethesda:
<GROSVENOR and SHADY GROVE
GLENMONT VIA DOWNTOWN (or Metro Center)>
Blue Line at Addison Road:
<FRANCONIA-SPRINGFIELD VIA DOWNTOWN (or Metro Center)
LARGO TOWN CENTER>
Hopefully Metro does not make the mistake of using Inbound and Outbound...
MACTRAXX
EXPRESS TRAIN TO NEW YORK PENN STATION-NO JAMAICA ON THIS TRAIN-PLEASE STAND CLEAR OF THE CLOSING TRAIN DOORS