• Newark CNJ Terminal To Be Torn Down

  • Pertaining to all railroading subjects, past and present, in New Jersey
Pertaining to all railroading subjects, past and present, in New Jersey

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  by Bethlehem Jct.
 
Ken W2KB wrote:Correct, CNJ (naturally, :wink: )

To my knowledge, the Reading and B&O did not run to Newark. I've never seen any indications of such in photos or timetables. So I believe that the signs were placed on the terminal in NJ's largest city to advertise the connections in Elizabeth and Jersey City (before 1946 when the Hackensack bridge was hit by a ship). The CNJ, Reading and B&O were under essentially common ownership in a corporate subsidiary relationship.
The B&O ran motor coach connections between the Jersey Central's Newark and Elizabeth stations. I would assume that they sold tickets at Newark station if their name was on the facade.
Here's a link to a PDF of their July '38 New York-Washington service Official Guide page that shows this:
http://streamlinerschedules.com/concour ... s/0384.pdf

The lone exception to motor coach service in the above linked schedule was their overnight Jersey City-Washington train, No. 511. That train required taking the Jersey Central's Newark-Jersey City train to the terminal to meet the B&O's No. 511.
In the Jan. 1930 Official Guide, the Newark-Elizabeth motor coach connection made scheduled stops at the Public Service building and Robert Treat Hotel. No. 511 also had a Newark-Washington sleeping car that opened at 10PM and left Newark at 12:22AM for Jersey City where it was added to the Washington bound train. The funny thing is, there was no return Washington to Newark sleeping car. Scanning the B&O's through car listing, it appears that the sleeper from Newark returned to Jersey City, then was moved to Newark for the nightly departure.
  by ExCon90
 
Yes, the return train from Washington discharged Newark passengers at Elizabeth, where a bus met them to take them to Newark. The arrival time at Elizabeth (I don't have any Guides handy) was sometime between 6 and 7 am, and no doubt sleeping-car passengers would have chafed at the switching movements necessary to get from Jersey City back to Newark just to get off the car.
  by kilroy
 
Well it's taken over year but I have photos of the inside of the CNJ terminal at Newark. The shots I took last year with the cell phone were junk so I never posted them. This year I took the camera with me when I went to give blood and got a few shots from the parking garage.

Here are a vertical and horizontal of the inside of what's left of the station.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=3003783

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=3003784
Last edited by kilroy on Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
  by Mgoldman
 
Excellent - thanks for the "insiders" view!

Hard to believe anyone seeing such a nostalgic site surviving so far into the future would even consider
tearing it down. A little history and culture would go a long way for a "city on the move" like Newark.

/Mitch
  by Ken W2KB
 
kilroy wrote:Well it's taken over year but I have photos of the inside of the CNJ terminal at Newark. The shots I took last year with the cell phone were junk so I never posted them. This year I took the camera with me when I went to give blood and got a few shots from the parking garage.

Here are a vertical and horizontal of the inside of what's left of the station.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=3003783

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=3003784
Thanks for the pix. That is the hallway that led from Broad Street to the actual terminal and train concourse. The parking garage is approximately where the large ornate main waiting room, ticket office and train gates were located. The concourse was east of that. So effectively, 90% of the terminal structure was torn down. The up and down ramps/steps in your photos were built to go to the levels of the mall that was partly constructed in the 1980s or so. At least the hall and Broad Street facade are still extant.
  by kilroy
 
Thanks Ken. I looked at those stairs and didn't think they belonged to the station but couldn't figure them out.
  by NJT4115
 
Sad to see once proud terminals now reduced to nothing (ex: Pavonia Terminal)
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