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 #1483512  by CPSmith
 
You could be correct - I don't really know other than to say that's a lot of power in a small space. I'll make that point and leave it at that, because I just don't know. If they were FPs, I probably wouldn't question it, but having tramped though a number of Fs in my career, I'm skeptical, but hey, who knows. Steam generators were (in general) more high than wide, so I guess you could build a HEP unit in the same manner. I doubt anyone would use the one in the photo and mount it transversely as you still need to get out the rear door, but nothing says you can't re-design it for a more up-and-down configuration.

The Southern constructed at least one power car out of an old baggage car and used a pair of 6-cylinder Detroit Diesels mounted length-wise, of roughly the same configuration as in the photo. I imagine NS 39 has a similar story.

Now I'm waiting for some meet-and-greet where I can take a walk through.
 #1495247  by thebigham
 
Here are some Then ( 2014/2015) & Now (2018) pics.

West bank in September 2014: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219449" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On March 19, 2015: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=222721" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On March 28, 2015: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=222934" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On October 1, 2018: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=246251" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - the pier is where the tress were cut

Bridge over the park road in August 2014: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=217761" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On March 28, 2015: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=222940" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On October 1, 2018: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=246250" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - bridge now over the circular stone wall

East bank in September 2014: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219452" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219451" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On March 28, 2015: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=222941" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On Sept. 23, 2018: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=246958" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Location of new bridge in September 2014: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219447" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On March 28, 2015: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=222932" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On october 1, 2018: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=247859" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

West bank in September 2014: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219448" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On March 19, 2015: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=222723" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On March 28, 2015: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=222933" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
On October 1, 2018: http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=246216" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Some of these match up. Some don't.

The Portageville entrance is now closed for the winter (I'm so mad.) so you can only hike in to the new bridge.
 #1498166  by 1Loran
 
MACTRAXX wrote:Everyone: Good to know about the fully completed status of the Genesee Arch Bridge.
The picture by John Kucko of the NS Office Car train on the bridge shows off the structure well...

Has there been any trespasser problems concerning the GAB this year now that we are more than
half way through Summer 2018? Is the bridge being watched by NYS State Park and/or NS Police?

If there are any special NO TRESPASSING signs in evidence around the vicinity of the bridge can
someone post a picture of one? Back when the GAB was being designed and built was there any
consideration about adding a secured walkway on one side alongside the track or was even that
deemed to be too much of a danger risk? MACTRAXX
We were up there in late October, and there were a lot of folks in the park and around the bridge. There were even a handful of cars on the east side of the bridge. Kucko reported that several arrests were made on the bridge during the Fall Fest weekend. I was surprised that the bridge has no area to walk for employees, the ballast covers the entire deck making footing problematic. Personally, I would never consider going out on the bridge. In addition to being illegal, the speed limit is much higher and you cannot hear east bound trains in dynamic braking approaching the bridge. There would be no chance to get off the bridge like in the old days. The bridge is well posted and fenced, but open to trespassers who are determined to be idiots.
 #1498712  by thebigham
 
^The problem is that they put up inferior fencing.

If NS and Letchworth were serious about trespassing, they would have put up industrial fencing.

The first time I saw it, I knew it would not prevent trespassing on the bridge.
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