Beech Cricker wrote:
MC8000 wrote:Jeff, the Ambassador was still quite a nice train at that point in time, it still carried a sleeper and lounge car, along with a full diner from Washington to Detroit. But what would you expect from the B&O right?
Charlie, my dad described his trips from Pittsburgh to Detroit as miserable. From what he said it appears that he experienced multiple slow orders across Ohio. And the train was very dirty.
Fort Street depot stayed in use until Amtrak and still hosted the ex Wabash trains to St. Louis as well as the ex Pere Marquette trains to Grand Rapids and Chicago at the end. Its most famous feature was the beautiful old clock tower that stood on the corner of Fort and Third Streets. The station was razed in 1974 after some effort to save it fell by the wayside.
Regarding Fort Street Union Depot, I have previously done some digging on the Detroit newspapers' coverage of the last trains at that station as well as its 1974 razing. These articles can be found at www.rrhx.com.
Of course I'm terribly biased, but that doesn't sound like 19 & 20 and at all. My dad worked it for years and our family put not a few miles on that train, and although the consist dwindled in later years it was always up to traditional B&O standards.
That train was considered the Detroit section of the Capitol, and it always
carried Pullman accomodations, at least a dining /lounge and reclining seat coaches.
As for numerous slow orders, that doesn't sound like Akron-Chicago Division I remember either. Not that there weren't slow orders for track work or rough track in places, but not to the point of making a trip miserable.