• PAR Business Train (ST 100, 101, 102 & 103; PAR 1 & 2)

  • Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.
Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.

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  by gokeefe
 

newpylong wrote:CSX is gonna put it into the dustbin.
I will believe it when I see it. They almost certainly paid extra for that intellectual property. I'm putting a 50/50 marker down that they are in fact entertaining a name change. This was one of Mellon's most cherished parts of his property. I'm stunned he's giving it up.


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  by newpylong
 
Who is entertaining a name change? CSX? If you think so, A) that's ridiculous, and B) you didn't read the STB application. The Pan Am Systems and Railways name will be merged into CSX and then sent the way of the dinosaur. A heritage unit is the most you'll ever see.
Last edited by newpylong on Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:48 am, edited 1 time in total.
  by MEC407
 
The Pan Am intellectual property is still worth a lot of money and is a small cash cow (cash calf?) for licensing fees and royalties. CSX surely plans to do something with it, even if that means selling it to someone else or just keeping it as a subsidiary.
  by newpylong
 
Sure, someone will keep collecting royalties for hand bags but the name in so far as a railroad (besides PAS which remains the property owner for that RR) is kaput, which is what were discussing no?
  by CN9634
 
I'm thinking Mellon kept the Pan Am brand rights and logos and that CSX has no intended plan for them anyways. PAS exists on paper well because it already exists. Pan Am Systems is just the vessel to transfer ownership of the RR properties again because it already exists and is the easiest method. Besides, he's a 'Plane' guy end of the day, not a train guy...
  by markhb
 
Unfortunately the section of the P&S agreement that covers the Pan Am branding stuff has been completely redacted. :frowning:
  by MEC407
 
He's owned railroads for 40 years, named the railroad after the town where he grew up, and at the 11th hour ordered one of the locomotives to be repainted into the paint scheme bearing his hometown's name. I wouldn't go so far as saying he's not a train guy. :wink: I think he's a lot more sentimental than many people realize. IMHO, the dispassionate/non-sentimentality of the company comes from the guy Mellon chose to run it. You can take the boy out of Penn Central but you can't take Penn Central out of the boy.
  by newpylong
 
Regardless, what he or someone else does or doesn't do with the name, the railroad as an operating entity will cease to exist - merged into CSX and then dissolved, as clearly defined in the STB application.
  by b&m 1566
 
NYC27 wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:06 pmIt would have been cool to reunite the 573 with this pair but the Conway Scenic wasn’t that interested.
Are you implying that the Conway Scenic was informed but turned down the offer?
  by NHV 669
 
OCS was west through Readfield about 3 hours ago.
  by MEC407
 
The business train was parked at the east end of Rigby Yard in South Portland this morning at 09:00, facing west. I only got a quick glimpse but it looked like it was the full four-car train. I couldn't see what it had for motive power.
  by CN9634
 
She’s making a quick run up to Brunswick and back for NEARS this afternoon as a party train. Should be leaving Portland around 1730
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