pd, you answered my question - that the only traffic that comes in or out of NJ on the Washington Secondary is for the ex DLW lines (and a few CNJ stubs).
rr503 wrote:I know someone who is an engineer for the Dover and Rockaway River Railroad and he said they (CAD LLC) will be pushing the local govts to address the P'burg Main Street bridge clearance restrictions on the WASS.. There were several articles a few years ago talking about undercutting the railroad or moving the switch to accommodate plate F cars. If that were to ever happen it would open up new opportunities and help grow business a little more, especially on the branch lines west of Dover and existing customers on the WASS secondary where there are no NJT and catenary height restrictions.pdtrains wrote:OT, but yea, the state of NJ has certainly helped persuade 90% (or more) of the industry in north jersey to leave. Some would have left anyway, and Conrail was no help at all. They wanted to eliminate as much carload freight as possible. Trying to talk their local customers into trucking freight from a pad at Croxton to their companies, and ripping out team tracks, cause their lawyers considered team tracks a liability.Absolutely. The big issue (that few like to talk about) is the fact that there are *way* too many pieces of local government in this state. 21 counties is a bit much, but whatever -- the fact we have 565 municipalities is ridiculous. That's one for every 16k people, and each one is levying its own set of taxes to fund governmental structures that are in many cases redundant. The economies of scale that could be realized if even a hundred were cut would be massive, and would vastly reduce tax load w/o cutting services...but I digress from trains.
One big question with this new operator is whether or not they'll push harder for bridge elevation/higher weight clearances with NJ. There was a study a couple of years back, but, to my knowledge, nothing has happened since (which, I'm sure, is at least partially attributable to NS's lack of interest in the route). That would really be a plus for shippers.
DRAFT PURPOSE & NEED STATEMENT
The purpose of this project is to provide freight transportation infrastructure that meets current industry standards in order to promote economic development and optimize freight movement particularly with the existing vertical clearance limitations of the South Main Street Bridge over the Washington Secondary/Morristown Line in Phillipsburg.
Chesapeake and Delaware, LLC is please to announce the start of Dover and Delaware River Railroad operations on Saturday March 30, 2019.
The Dover and Delaware River Railroad - reporting marks DD - will operate approximately 109 miles of track in Warren, Morris, and Passaic Counties, serving customers in the communities of Phillipsburg, Washington, Hackettstown, Dover, Denville, and Mountain View, on track leased from Norfolk Southern and over trackage rights on New Jersey Transit.
DD will interchange with Norfolk Southern at Phillipsburg, NJ, the Morristown & Erie Railway at Lake Junction, NJ, and with sister company Dover and Rockaway River Railroad at Chester Junction and Wharton, NJ. Operations will be at least six days per week.
Chesapeake and Delaware, LLC was formed in 2016 for the purpose of owning, leasing, marketing, operating, and managing short line railroads and related businesses. For more information on the Chesapeake and Delaware-owned Dover and Delaware River Railroad, Dover and Rockaway River Railroad, or our affiliated lines in New Jersey, including the Belvidere and Delaware River Railway and Black River & Western Railroad, visit: http://www.chesapeakeanddelaware.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.
pdtrains wrote:I'm gonna vote for Hackettstown for the DD base of operation. I think it would just about be a 1 day turn to either Hudson Yard in Pburg, or Totowa, with work along the way.No, it will be Washington... Don't think the engines will be out in the open in the yard itself, so I believe the BASF plant is being looked at... BASF currently doesn't receive cars, but the plant there is still operational for some product.
Does NJT overnight any trains there, or do they all deadhead to port morris? Would be nice if there were a crew office there they could share. Also there's the 2nd track south of town. IDK if NJT uses it...If not DD could clear up/store equipment there.
IDK...just a guess. Would be nice if they cud get M&M mars to use rail again....Thats a big plant .
blockline4180 wrote:No, it will be Washington... Don't think the engines will be out in the open in the yard itself, so I believe the BASF plant is being looked at... BASF currently doesn't receive cars, but the plant there is still operational for some product.The Washington freight yard/team track seems like a good home base though.