• North River Tunnels (Hudson River) Discussion (Repairs, History, Status, Etc.)

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This forum will be for issues that don't belong specifically to one NYC area transit agency, but several. For instance, intra-MTA proposals or MTA-wide issues, which may involve both Metro-North Railroad (MNRR) and the Long Island Railroad (LIRR). Other intra-agency examples: through running such as the now discontinued MNRR-NJT Meadowlands special. Topics which only concern one operating agency should remain in their respective forums.

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  by electricron
 
Another news article by the Daily News.
https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny- ... story.html
Curtains for Gateway: Jersey attacks the smartest plan to fix Hudson River rail tunnel
That finally public report by London Bridge Associates proves that the Superstorm Sandy-flooded tubes can and should be repaired in place, exactly as this column has been saying since January 2019, when Gov. Cuomo wisely pushed a similar plan for the L train.
Our feelings aren’t hurt by the Jersey Boys’ gang-up, for it’s clear they’re just lashing out because their bloated $30 billion Gateway plan is being exposed as the boondoggle it is. There is a faster, cheaper, less disruptive way to fix two tubes and dig two new ones, and now we have it in 208 wonky pages.
And another
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny ... story.html
Cuomo says report shows Hudson River rail tunnels can be fixed without closing
Gov. Cuomo on Sunday said an incoming report will poke a hole in plans to fix a pair of 110-year-old Hudson River rail tunnels damaged by Hurricane Sandy in 2012.
But Cuomo said a new report will show the current tunnels can be fixed without closing — citing a similar strategy the Metropolitan Transportation Authority used to fix the L train’s Sandy-damaged East River tunnel.
The two new tunnels would have the added benefit of untangling bottlenecks near Penn Station and increasing the frequency of trains across the river. But if they’re found to be simply to increase capacity and aren’t essential to fixing the current tunnels, the project could have a harder time qualifying for federal funding.
The report has been compiled by the engineering consultant London Bridge Associates, which was contracted by the Port Authority in July 2019. It’s been delivered to the Gateway Program Development Corporation, a nonprofit formed to stump for the tunnel project.
Wow!
  by mtuandrew
 
I could rebuild my old car to better-than-new condition too, but even if it has a better drivetrain etc it’s still an old car with all the limitations of an old car. If that’s your thing, great, but it’s hard to upgrade an antique into a daily driver.
  by mtuandrew
 
eolesen wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:28 pm Tell that to the historical building preservation folks who think anything old shouldn't be torn down.....
Tell them? I is one :p

And speaking as one, pretty much everyone in my field loves adaptive reuse, and most of us accept that old buildings & structures will get torn down if they’re past saving.