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 #1392520  by nydepot
 
I've seen their brick engine house before. It's located here:

https://goo.gl/maps/ZuSnTPRfa3C2

But attached is another engine house with the last engines they used. Where was this one located? I know the brick one was around for older electrics and I've also see the newer electrics there so the building must have been frond for a while.

Was this one way up where Foote Yard was maybe? Thanks.
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 #1392600  by lvrr325
 
Yes, it's right next to the one in your link, slightly south and east. Rotate the view to show the east side and you can see the end doors.
 #1392603  by nydepot
 
I looked at that building first. Note on the original photo, the door is centered under the peak. Note in the Bing screen grab here, the peak is between two doors. Plus it "looks" like the old building has three doors.and this has four.
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 #1392606  by nydepot
 
My guess is the building NE of the brick one: https://binged.it/29EksE5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

In the early aerials, you can see the tracks fanned out to it.

The electrics in the first photo were delivered in 1952.
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In the first photo, you can see the side wall and then the angled roof through the window of the electric.
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 #1392610  by lvrr325
 
Perhaps.

Photos here:

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/r ... 11,2417895" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And here

http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/r ... 11,3203502" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Next to last photo in the first thread shows it better but you need ot be a member to enlarge them.


According to what these threads say, the brick one IS the new one, replacing the other, older structure.
 #1392617  by lvrr325
 
I went to historicaerials.com to try to make some sense of this and I'm still lost.

There are pictures from 1958, 1959, 63, 66, 72 and newer.

In the 1958 picture tracks fan out and go into the brick building and the other one does not exist.

In the 1959 picture there is some kind of large excavation going on across where the tracks fan out into the brick building and at the bottom a switchback allows access to the (new) three-doored building. The excavation goes clear up to the NYC yards and there's a large area of the river filled in, the entire shoreline is different. In each picture from 1958 to 1966 it changes shape.

In the 1963 picture everything is back as it was before and no tracks go to the three-door building.

That car at right in your photo is a 1960-62 Ford Falcon, hard to say which year as the grille is cropped out.


The white background building may be the dark gray building in current pictures, both have glass block windows although it's been altered and I had to use Google Street View to figure out they matched.
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 #1392618  by nydepot
 
Even the topos from the 40s show the brick and not the metal one.

Agree about the white building. Although so much has changed down there.
 #1392724  by RailKevin
 
The excavation appears to be the underground feeder canals for the Robert Moses hydro plant. Once it was completed, there would have been restrictions on how much weight/development that could be over the canals. In some locations the canals would have a bridge-like structure to handle roads and railroads.