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Discussion related to New Jersey Transit rail and light rail operations.

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  by lensovet
 
Dcell wrote: Sun Mar 06, 2022 10:37 am
Bracdude181 wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:23 pm Well, if keeping the existing system in place is going to be futile then why not do a light rail conversion? Wouldn’t be too terribly difficult in regards to current infrastructure.
The railroad union will never ever allow member jobs to be lost -- light rail conversion has been talked about since the 1990s and zip has happened. You will see an electric bi-level train on the Dinky line in the future.
That makes no sense. 3 cars? You'd walk half the route by just going from end of the train to the other.

I'm confused by this though:
The cost of that project is estimated at $100 million; the as-is option is estimated to cost $15 million for maintenance of existing equipment.
What's the timeframe for these numbers? Is $15 million yearly, meaning it starts costing more money after 7 years?
  by nomis
 
3 car sets is the operational spec for the Multi Level EMU.
  by lensovet
 
I know. that's why i'm saying it's ludicrous to be running these things on the Dinky line.
  by Dcell
 
Let's see in 2042 if there is light rail. I sincerely doubt it, based on Princeton's history is resisting any changes to the Dinky. And Dinky jobs are held by the most senior engineers and conductors.
  by planespotting
 
Anyone know how old the Dinky mile marker post is in the center of image?
And is it 47 miles to Newark or NYC?

https://imgur.com/a/TpmUi6L
  by MACTRAXX
 
planespotting wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:38 pm Anyone know how old the Dinky mile marker post is in the center of image?
And is it 47 miles to Newark or NYC?

https://imgur.com/a/TpmUi6L
PS - That is MP 47 measured from Jersey City-Exchange Place from PRR days...
This MP is on the NEC just east of Princeton Junction Station...
That is a cast-iron MP with the 47 numerals raised on the top...
It is exactly 1.3 miles further to Penn Station New York...48.3 to be exact to NYP...

The PJ&B has MP 1, 2 and 3 (past end of track - the Dinky route is 2.8 miles long) from PJC...
MACTRAXX
  by planespotting
 
MACTRAXX wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:14 pm
planespotting wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 12:38 pm Anyone know how old the Dinky mile marker post is in the center of image?
And is it 47 miles to Newark or NYC?

https://imgur.com/a/TpmUi6L
PS - That is MP 47 measured from Jersey City-Exchange Place from PRR days...
This MP is on the NEC just east of Princeton Junction Station...
That is a cast-iron MP with the 47 numerals raised on the top...
It is exactly 1.3 miles further to Penn Station New York...48.3 to be exact to NYP...

The PJ&B has MP 1, 2 and 3 (past end of track - the Dinky route is 2.8 miles long) from PJC...
MACTRAXX
That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. Cast-iron sure lasts a while. If you look closely the "47" was first written horizontal and then faded out and then they appear to have re-written vertically.
  by pumpers
 
MACTRAXX wrote: Mon Jun 20, 2022 1:14 pm The PJ&B has MP 1, 2 and 3 (past end of track - the Dinky route is 2.8 miles long) from PJC...
MACTRAXX
When built in the 1860's, the Dinky originally ran to the foot of Blair Arch on the Princeton campus - about 0.3 or 0.4 mile further than now. In some bushes on campus near the old ROW is an old milepost that say "3" or "3.0" on it I think (not 100% sure about the 3) , although I have been told it is not exactly where it originally was . The line was cut back at least once and I possibly twice, as campus expanded over the years, before the recent cutback a few years ago.
Jim S
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