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Discussion of the past and present operations of the Long Island Rail Road.

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  by Nasadowsk
 
The (unconfirmed) rumor I heard is that the MTA is basically done with Bombardier and Kawasaki.

Who gets the next orders? Who knows? Alstom has a facility in NY state, as does CAF.
  by R36 Combine Coach
 
Kawasaki did pick up the slack on the R211s and the base order will be complete in time for 8th Avenue CBTC cutover in 2025.
  by Head-end View
 
Nasadowsk wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 3:32 pm The (unconfirmed) rumor I heard is that the MTA is basically done with Bombardier and Kawasaki.

Who gets the next orders? Who knows? Alstom has a facility in NY state, as does CAF.
What's interesting is that the Bombardier built LIRR M-7's (despite their excessive weight which you commented on many years ago) have proven to be very reliable equipment. I rarely hear engineers radioing in to the dispatchers about equipment problems with them, as compared to it being a daily occurrence years ago with the M-1 trains. Too bad that Bombardier lost their way in the later years.
  by Head-end View
 
R36 Combine Coach wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 4:43 pm Kawasaki did pick up the slack on the R211s and the base order will be complete in time for 8th Avenue CBTC cutover in 2025.
Until recently Kawasaki had a good reputation. As far as I know they did a good job building PATH's fleet of PA-5 trains. Not aware of any serious problems with them .
  by Nasadowsk
 
Now living somewhat south of I-80 in PA, I do see BART cars going around the Buckhorn area, both west AND east. Warranty repairs? I don’t know, but they do go both ways.
  by RandallW
 
Alstom is completing an order for new BART cars (I think there are ~30 more cars to be delivered) and BART has just retired its fleet of original cars, so you likely see new cars going west to be delivered and retired cars going east to be scrapped.
  by gamer4616
 
I rarely hear engineers radioing in to the dispatchers about equipment problems with them, as compared to it being a daily occurrence years ago with the M-1 trains.
There has been quite a bit of equipment trouble with the M7's as of late. Communications have been an issue. There's been an increase in the Public Address, Intercom, and Automated Station announcements not working throughout the entire train. But, if the train can move, it will be used in service.



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  by Head-end View
 
Interesting! I did not know that. But it's still not as serious as on the M-1's years ago with engineers regularly calling 204 reporting "can't get a release" and "can't get a door light". I heard that so many times, I practically had the troubleshooting procedure memorized. LOL

Re: the communications issues, I predicted when these cars were new that this would eventually happen with all this software based stuff. All those features were great when they worked but when they get old after twenty years and stuff starts wearing out.....

I have made the same predictions re: the lighted progressive station stop maps on the latest NYC subway trains. Time will tell.
  by Jake Rothman
 
9195-9196 entered service this morning as the leading eastbound motor of a 10 car set, our first in nearly 5 months. 9093-9094 and 9197-9198 continue to go under testing. This leaves us 10 cars (5 pairs to go). Those being the two above and 9013-9014, 9189-9190, and 9201-9202. Pair 9015-9016 is under unknown status following the warranty repairs.
  by Jake Rothman
 
9093-9094 has finally entered service after nearly three years for the evening rush as the West facing motor of a 6 car set. Currently on Train #1658 to Huntington, 8 cars (4 pairs) to go.
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