Discussion relating to the operations of MTA MetroNorth Railroad including west of Hudson operations and discussion of CtDOT sponsored rail operations such as Shore Line East and the Springfield to New Haven Hartford Line

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  by njtmnrrbuff
 
That is true about the M8s being able to use the high level platforms at NLC. If the Acelas use the high level platforms in NLC, then the M8s should be able to as well. It would be great to see those M8s operate on as many Ctrail SLE trains as possible. What is the minimum number of cars that they can run? It seems that six car trains for SLE would be overkill. I rode a SLE train a few weeks ago on a Saturday morning and that train wasn’t close to being half way full.
  by Silverliner II
 
njtmnrrbuff wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:59 am That is true about the M8s being able to use the high level platforms at NLC. If the Acelas use the high level platforms in NLC, then the M8s should be able to as well. It would be great to see those M8s operate on as many Ctrail SLE trains as possible. What is the minimum number of cars that they can run? It seems that six car trains for SLE would be overkill. I rode a SLE train a few weeks ago on a Saturday morning and that train wasn’t close to being half way full.
Given that normal SLE consists are 3 to 4 cars, the M8's, at a minimum, would likely run 4-car sets.
  by MattW
 
njtmnrrbuff wrote: Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:59 am That is true about the M8s being able to use the high level platforms at NLC. If the Acelas use the high level platforms in NLC, then the M8s should be able to as well. It would be great to see those M8s operate on as many Ctrail SLE trains as possible. What is the minimum number of cars that they can run? It seems that six car trains for SLE would be overkill. I rode a SLE train a few weeks ago on a Saturday morning and that train wasn’t close to being half way full.
The difference though between the Acelas and M8s is the position of the doors. The Acelas have doors at the ends of the cars which puts them closer to the platform on the curve, the M8s have doors at the "quarter point" which puts the doors farther from the platform in a curve.
  by Silverliner II
 
MattW wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:05 am The difference though between the Acelas and M8s is the position of the doors. The Acelas have doors at the ends of the cars which puts them closer to the platform on the curve, the M8s have doors at the "quarter point" which puts the doors farther from the platform in a curve.
And that door positioning on the curved platform is why I heard that the M8's would only be able to run on trains to Old Saybrook.
From what I heard a good while back, the ultimate operating plan when all was said and done was that all the Old Saybrook trips would be M8 and the New London trips would remain diesel-hauled push-pull sets. The two Stamford trips would both be among trips terminating at Old Saybrook while the New London trips would originate/terminate at New Haven.
That was also all very pre-pandemic as well. It's anybody's guess what will happen now.
  by The EGE
 
Is the gap really so far that bridge plates aren't feasible? NLC is the terminus, so it's not like dwell times are an issue.
  by njtmnrrbuff
 
Overall, dwell time for the M8s in NLC shouldn't matter that much as likely many of the SLE trains will terminate there. Yes, if they happen to use the high level platform closest to the downtown area, of course, they will probably have to block the grade crossing at the station for a minute or two. It probably doesn't matter much as there probably isn't much auto traffic crossing that grade crossing. If it might matter, than SLE trains could also board at the high level platform closest to the Thames.
  by The EGE
 
Track 6 (closest to the Thames) is often used for SLE; it even has a tiny semi-permanent bridge plate structure. About 2 dozen catenary poles would be needed to electrify the track, which is currently diesel-only.
  by njtmnrrbuff
 
Track 6 should be electrified. That would certainly enable M8's to stop at that platform to drop off and discharge passengers. I'm not surprised if Ctrail M8 consists would be four cars. That is about right for SLE. I believe that there are married pairs of M8's so that makes sense if three car M8 consists can't be formed.
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