• LS&MS freight car numbering

  • Discussion relating to the NYC and subsidiaries, up to 1968. Visit the NYCS Historical Society for more information.
Discussion relating to the NYC and subsidiaries, up to 1968. Visit the NYCS Historical Society for more information.

Moderator: Otto Vondrak

  by NKP1155
 
Looking at old photos of Lake Shore & Michigan Southern freight cars, I see many that have a letter in front of of behind the numbers. (i.e. "The American Railroad Freight Car" by John White p 323) Can any of you explain if there was a special significance to this numbering system?

On really old photos, the pre-air and Janey coupler era, many cars, LS&MS or other carriers, have the letters "B.T." painted on the lower car sides. Do any of you know what this was an abbreviation for?
  by Jack Shufelt
 
How about supplying some examples of the numbering used? Thanks
  by NYC_Dave
 
Here's one LS&MS boxcar with a D in front of the number and two NYC&HR cars with B.T. One has a large B.T. after the number and the other is a small B.T. in the lower right corner. Two of these cars have RED LINE on them. Other cars have BLUE LINE and WHITE LINE. What is the significance of these?
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  by NYC1956
 
I cannot help with the "D" and "BT" in the car numbers, but this may be helpful:
In 1856 the Merchants Despatch Company started as a fast freight line with box cars marked for the Red Line, Blue Line or White Line. At some point, the company came under control of Cornelius Vanderbilt and thus the New York Central.
The earliest MDT reefers were painted white with a red and blue line along the bottom, a carry-over from the names of the fast freight lines. Later reefers were painted yellow with box car red ends, but in 1947 they returned to using white on the reefers. The last use of the red and blue stripes was on a small batch of these - most did not receive the stripes.
Mike Kmetz
  by NKP1155
 
Looking at the Equipment Register, the "D" before the number seems to indicate a car "Dedicated" to a service or customer.

I'm wondering if the "B.T." indicted the car had some type of truss rods included in the car bottom framing.