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lvrr325 wrote:LV timetable says 2 miles north of Crittenden Road. I would expect that puts it just below where the Erie bridge across the river is by the UofR campus.
The only problem is the EL connection to the LV is below Crittenden Road, it's just below West Jefferson Road. Crittenden Road is even north of the West Shore branch.
BR&P wrote:Ballantyne is west of the Genesee River, to the east of the bridge it's Jefferson.
It's the goofy highway nomenclature. If you start at Southtown Plaza and drive west without making any turns, you will drive on Jefferson, Ballantyne, Archer, and Beaver Roads. All essentially the same road. To make it more confusing, both Ballantyne and Archer go farther if you DO turn. In other words, as you are westbound on Ballantyne, you have the choice of a left turn. If you do turn left, you are STILL on Ballantyne, if you go straight ahead (you don't even have a stop sign or light) you now are on Archer. Crazy huh?
But at the location in question, where the LV and Erie crossed the road, that's Jefferson Road.
CPSmith wrote:This view is to the east and the Pennsy is at the bottom of the photo.Sorry, but the Pennsylvania never crossed the river. You can just barely see their tracks at the TOP of the photo, near where Plymouth Ave. intersects. At the bottom is the Erie and the Lehigh Valley. This view is looking WEST. The 2 overpasses are the same ones that still exist today crossing over Elmwood, between the U of R and Strong hospital.
D Alex wrote: Sorry, but the Pennsylvania never crossed the river. You can just barely see their tracks at the TOP of the photo, near where Plymouth Ave. intersects. At the bottom is the Erie and the Lehigh Valley. This view is looking WEST. The 2 overpasses are the same ones that still exist today crossing over Elmwood, between the U of R and Strong hospital.There are two separate photos. One from the east, one from the west. In the second shot, the PRR track is near the bottom as he says.
D Alex wrote:OK, I didn't notice that he had a second photo from the other side. Just out of curiosity, was the older Elmwood ave. trestle bridge kept for any time after the newer bridge was opened? What year was this, and at that time, were any of the 3 railroads still running here?https://bridgehunter.com/category/city/ ... -new-york/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Says the bridge replacement seen in the photos was done in 1934, so all 3 were still running at that time. I grew up a few blocks away from there, and I can safely say they all had at least some traffic up to late 1975, when we moved away. The Pennsy was our "who is brave enough to hop the train" line, since the freights moved through there so slowly. Most who claimed to have done it never seemed to have had any witnesses though. The Elmwood bidge was rebuilt again in the mid to late 80's if I remember correctly.