by F74265A
If AIM, the scrap operation, is moving from their spot on the SJ harbor for IM expansion, where is the scrap business moving to?
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by CN9634
AIM at the port hasnt operated since the fire...a few outbound loadings have been permitted but the site is toast. The question really is who pays for cleanup and where can they move which neither has a clear answer.
by KuBand12
Their on Recycling St. off of Rothesay Ave. Other than clearing their property at the port, they haven't been active at the port since the fire on ~ Sept.15, 2023. Their operating license was revoked after the fire investigation.
by NHV 669
They're definitely moving cars over the Moosehead still, they've got to be handled somewhere with rail access...
CPF66 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2024 8:26 am CSX geo train will be scanning to Saint John the end of this week.The Geo train was picked up this morning by NBR and towed to Brownville.
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by CN9634
AIM owns the operation at North Bangor off the CP Bangor sub.
There are still a lot of little operations all over the place in NB too, a few off CN.
There are still a lot of little operations all over the place in NB too, a few off CN.
by Gilbert B Norman
Messrs. CN, CPF, and Kuband have collectively established that simply because Chessie's Track Geometry Train was observed on Mr. Irving's road does not mean that Chessie will be putting her Fancy Feast into his ROW.
There are volumes of FRA regulations regarding track geometry and Mr. Irving's road has a US subsidiary (can't keep the "alphabet soup" straight) operating in Maine as far West as Keag. I'm assured that it's safe assumption Canada has like regulations regarding track geometry, so to conclude that any other reason from this observation than a periodic inspection is premature.
Now at such time that Chessie can get the Maine Central up to FRA Class 3 and its 40mph speed limit, addresses the clearance issues we have noted here, and otherwise in the game to handle high value traffic from Saint John, that is when Mr. Irving had best be prepared to get his road in the game. But he could just as easily go to his own convenience stores and buy his own Fancy Feast.
There are volumes of FRA regulations regarding track geometry and Mr. Irving's road has a US subsidiary (can't keep the "alphabet soup" straight) operating in Maine as far West as Keag. I'm assured that it's safe assumption Canada has like regulations regarding track geometry, so to conclude that any other reason from this observation than a periodic inspection is premature.
Now at such time that Chessie can get the Maine Central up to FRA Class 3 and its 40mph speed limit, addresses the clearance issues we have noted here, and otherwise in the game to handle high value traffic from Saint John, that is when Mr. Irving had best be prepared to get his road in the game. But he could just as easily go to his own convenience stores and buy his own Fancy Feast.
by NHV 669
120 was into Greenville Jct. at 02:44 with a three KCS lashup, 46 mixed freight (11 loaded autoracks), 11 wells/15 containers, 60 empty wells.
121 was into Greenville Jct. at 08:16 with CP 8789/KCSM 4873, 90 wells/171 containers, CP 8877 (DPU), 30 wells/64 containers, 55 mixed freight.
121 was into Greenville Jct. at 08:16 with CP 8789/KCSM 4873, 90 wells/171 containers, CP 8877 (DPU), 30 wells/64 containers, 55 mixed freight.
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by dhs12
Containers on CPKC 120/121 are all Port of Saint John business? Or does it handle containers for other IM ramps/ports?
by CN9634
dhs12 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 15, 2024 8:44 am Containers on CPKC 120/121 are all Port of Saint John business? Or does it handle containers for other IM ramps/ports?There is a distinct seperation of international containers headed for the Port of SJ and the domestic intermodal business headed for Lancaster Logistics. At one point there was a contract at PSJ to handle domestic boxes but as the business ramped up JD Irving built its own intermodal facility.
The difference is that domestic containers are 53' whereas ocean laden cargo moves mostly in 40s and 20s (occasionally a 45' retail box). From time to time however, a 40' container could make its way to Lancaster Logistics if for example it was a west coast port container headed for the local market. Typically you see these mixed in stacks with the 53' container blocks.
by dhs12
When did they finish the Lancaster facility?
Between the port and Lancaster, how many containers each day? And how has it changed as the port has been expanded? How much is it expected to increase as the port continues to expands?
Between the port and Lancaster, how many containers each day? And how has it changed as the port has been expanded? How much is it expected to increase as the port continues to expands?
by CN9634
There is a considerable amount of material already within this thread I would suggest you look. Also, there is a good amount of material you can find on Google for Saint John Port or Intermodal as key words. Good luck.
by NHV 669
121 was into Greenville Jct. at 08:45 with KCSM 4885/KCSM 4733, 55 mixed freight (7 autoracks), KCS 4797 (DPU), 17 mixed freight, 64 wells/129 containers.
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120 was into Greenville Jct. at 13:28 with CP 8173/CP 9720/CP 3048/NS 7712, 20 mixed freight (one loaded autorack), 60 wells/113 containers, 22 empty wells.
[Edited at 16:53]
120 was into Greenville Jct. at 13:28 with CP 8173/CP 9720/CP 3048/NS 7712, 20 mixed freight (one loaded autorack), 60 wells/113 containers, 22 empty wells.
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by NHV 669
121 was into Greenville Jct. at 08:54 with CP 8173/CP 9720, 96 wells/198 containers, NS 7712 (DPU), 68 mixed freight (33 autoracks), one empty well.
120 was into Greenville Jct. at 17:55 with KCSM 4885/KCSM 4733, 84 wells/122 containers, 5 empty wells, 40 mixed freight (4 loaded autoracks).
120 was into Greenville Jct. at 17:55 with KCSM 4885/KCSM 4733, 84 wells/122 containers, 5 empty wells, 40 mixed freight (4 loaded autoracks).
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by Gilbert B Norman
Mr. NHV, why can't CPKC run two trains to better serve their customers AND to facilitate efficient movement e.g. an air hose parts and maybe ties up a rural X-ing for two hours.
Of course, Uncle Warren, while he claims not to have implemented PSR on his 1:1 Lionel, has adopted some of The Gospel, such as running a 220 car MTY by my house - and, maybe going 25mph, tying up traffic for what seemed like a half hour - and I had to get from my side of town to the other.
Of course, Uncle Warren, while he claims not to have implemented PSR on his 1:1 Lionel, has adopted some of The Gospel, such as running a 220 car MTY by my house - and, maybe going 25mph, tying up traffic for what seemed like a half hour - and I had to get from my side of town to the other.
by NHV 669
The long trains over 7500' certainly aren't efficient to work at Jackman, but they're [CPKC] also apparently still handcuffed by crew issues as noted up thread.
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