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A general discussion about shortlines, industrials, and military railroads

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 #682489  by jfcrail
 
I am interested in finding out how many industrial businesses still own their own locomotives and do their own switching. I have to guess with the decline of manufacturing and heavy industry this practice must also be declining. I would like to document and phototgraph some before there are diminished any further. Specifically looking around western NY,western PA, eastern Ohio,West Virginia,southern Ontario. I want to keep it to a one days drive from the Buffalo NY area. Thanks!!
 #682499  by 46u
 
There is a paper mill here in Macon, Georgia who's name has changed may times over the years which right now is called Graphic Packaging Corporation that does there own switching.
 #682580  by 46u
 
I went by Graphic Packaging Corporation and the guard would not let me go inside the fence to far. He told me they had the engine I have a picture of and one other that was orange which I did not see. Sorry the pictures are not better but with that dumpster in the way but that is as close I was allowed to get. The guard said GPC owned there engines I am thinking they lease them. CANAC is a company in Canada.
http://www.canac.com/index.php
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 #683865  by scharnhorst
 
ADM Plant in Montazuma/Port Byron, NY has an SW8? I think still in service but its a rare site to see it, There is the Former Trigan steam Plant, in Solvay, NY which has an alco S6 which comes out every now and then. NYSE&G has a remote control unit down at Milikin Station near Ithica, NY on the East bank of Cayuga Lake.
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 #683955  by scottychaos
 
"Commodity Resource Corporation" at P&L junction in Caledonia, NY has a EMD NW2:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictur ... 007-07.jpg
http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopi ... 9&start=30

American Motive Power in Dansville, NY has a EMD SW9, the former NYSW 120.
http://www.thebluecomet.com/nysw120LF89.jpg
(photo taken before it went to AMP)

Alstom in Hornell, NY has an Alco S6:
http://www.jefflubchanskycpa.com/ALSTOM ... 9-4D32.jpg
originally South Buffalo #43.

Scot
 #683962  by scottychaos
 
Buffalo still has several industrial critters/switchers in use (and probably just as many still there, but not in use)

Outokumpu American Brass has an Alco S4.
former South Buffalo #92.
believed not in use, little is known about this unit.

"Huntly Plant" (former Niagara Mohawk) in Tonawanda has an Alco S2.
former South Buffalo #64.
also believed not in use.

Tonawanda Coke has an Alco S3, former Maine Central 961.
known to be OOS, replaced by an EMD SW-something which is in use.

there is a former Oxy-Chem/Relco Alco S1 on the south side of Niagara Falls, awaiting transport to its new owner,
the Medina RR Museum: http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictur ... -800px.jpg

More info on the Alcos is here:
http://gold.mylargescale.com/Scottychaos/NY-Alcos/

I dont keep track of the EMD's or GE's, so im not sure how many industrial switchers are in use in Buffalo..
(someone probably maintains a list!)
probably at least 4 or 5 in use I would imagine, maybe more.
I saw a tiny GE 4-wheel critter down at the Buffalo River industrial area last year, dont know who it belongs to.

Scot
 #683965  by scharnhorst
 
don't quote me on this but I think Crucible Steel in Solvay, NY may still have its siderod centercab switcher. I have only seen it once in the late 90's.
 #684222  by Bartman-tn
 
Between Canada and the US, there are about 2200 facilities with private railroads using more than 5500 locomotives. There are about the same number with railcar movers.

Two great sources for this info is the Canadian Trackside Guide which is published yearly, and The Comprehensive Guide to Industrial Locomotives. Edition 3 from 2002 is the latest edition but its website keeps the info somewhat updated.
 #684391  by scharnhorst
 
Bartman-tn wrote:Between Canada and the US, there are about 2200 facilities with private railroads using more than 5500 locomotives. There are about the same number with railcar movers.

Two great sources for this info is the Canadian Trackside Guide which is published yearly, and The Comprehensive Guide to Industrial Locomotives. Edition 3 from 2002 is the latest edition but its website keeps the info somewhat updated.

are there links for these pages? I would be intrested in adding a few more books to the collection.