The Cape Codder summer train Amtrak ran from 1986-'96..
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Gilbert B Norman wrote: ↑Fri May 08, 2020 10:49 amMuch as it would be nice to have a Federal Government that could provide for every last want and ostensible need for everyone, you simply can't.Agreed. My point was with regards to service modifications of existing routes to divide between "express" and "local". Amtrak's "secret sauce" has become the ability to tolerate a reasonable number of small town stations while still serving major urban areas with transit times that the public will tolerate.
John_Perkowski wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:20 am Rather than restoring a defunct route, I’d be looking for unserved/underserved city pairs where multiple runs per day would be justifiable.That's what Amtrak is proposing.
mtuandrew wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:24 pm Not sure that Amtrak has ever had a STL-MEM line but I think that has potential too.They did and it flopped.
Gilbert B Norman wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:18 pmYes, but I don't think they ever ran a train between the two via Cape Girardeau. What was the last train to use that route?mtuandrew wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:24 pm Not sure that Amtrak has ever had a STL-MEM line but I think that has potential too.They did and it flopped.
The two car train, a Dome-Coach and a Food Service operated over the SRY rather thann the traditional IC. It was then joined with the City at Carbondale.
Can't remember off the top of my head the dates, but it was pre-Superliner. Maybe WGC era considering the SRY routing.
Gilbert B Norman wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:18 pmIt was still running in the late eighties. i remember it as a option when i was travelling.mtuandrew wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:24 pm Not sure that Amtrak has ever had a STL-MEM line but I think that has potential too.They did and it flopped.
The two car train, a Dome-Coach and a Food Service operated over the SRY rather thann the traditional IC. It was then joined with the City at Carbondale.
Can't remember off the top of my head the dates, but it was pre-Superliner. Maybe WGC era considering the SRY routing.
John_Perkowski wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:20 am Rather than restoring a defunct route, I’d be looking for unserved/underserved city pairs where multiple runs per day would be justifiable.Relevant Amtrak/RPA presentation:
mtuandrew wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:24 pm KCY-TOP-WIC-OKC comes to mind; I think it could stand alone rather than as a new Lone Star. Not sure that Amtrak has ever had a STL-MEM line but I think that has potential too.Ten years ago, at railforum, I was deeply involved in a debate over extending the Heartland Flyer to Kansas City. It was in the time when President Obama’s HSR funding was in its first round. I had some key points in that debate...
bostontrainguy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 11:45 amTerminate the Flyer at Newton. A midnight cross platform solution was idiotic a decade ago, it’s idiotic today, and it will be idiotic for years to come.
Relevant Amtrak/RPA presentation:
https://www.railpassengers.org/site/ass ... ridors.pdf
railgeekteen wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:32 pm .... I don't think they ever ran a train between the two via Cape Girardeau. What was the last train to use that route?Checking my Guides, as of Nov '64 SLSF (Frisco) 807-8 - Sunnyland - was Coach only Daylight schedule StL-Memphis. As of March '69, it was gone.