• Greenway - old ROW in Mt. Morris, NY

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  by thebigham
 
Is this the location of "Deep Cut"?

http://binged.it/WQjVDA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It doesn't like there is a deep cut there anymore.

Here's a pic of when the PRR ran through there:

http://www.letchworthparkhistory.com/lpa177.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Do any of the mile posts still stand?
  by nydepot
 
Yes, No.

Deep Cut was very long. There is an historical marker next to the road that runs to Nunda between that turn off for Short Tract and Oakland.

They also wrecked it with the redoing of Short Tract Rd.

Charles
thebigham wrote:Is this the location of "Deep Cut"?

http://binged.it/WQjVDA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It doesn't like there is a deep cut there anymore.

Here's a pic of when the PRR ran through there:

http://www.letchworthparkhistory.com/lpa177.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Do any of the mile posts still stand?
  by thebigham
 
^Thanks, Charles! When did they do that? Did you ever see it?

There is a scheduled hike through here this Sunday through Letchworth St Park:

http://nysparks.com/events/event-results.aspx?pk=79" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Genesee Valley Canal Trail (Locks Section) Nature Walk
Sunday, September 14, 2014 01:00 PM - 03:00 PM
Letchworth State Park
Phone: (585) 493-3600

This general nature walk will be highlighted by what is met along the way of the Genesee Valley Canal Trail. Meet at the junction of Oakland Road and Route 436 in Oakland, NY. Will car pool.

Walk is 2 hours, 1 mile.

It is a "Nature" walk. I'm going to attend anyway.

Chris
  by thebigham
 
There is a 4 hour hike this Sunday scheduled for the Greenway in Belfast. The early weather forecast is rain.

http://nysparks.com/events/event-results.aspx?pk=79" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Genesee Valley Greenway Hike Part Six: Oramel to Belfast
Sunday, September 21, 2014 02:00 PM - 06:00 PM
Letchworth State Park
Phone: (585) 493-3600

This is a multiple part series offered throughout the year. Designed to explore and sample some of this 90-mile linear trail mostly along the Genesee River's valley from Cattaraugus, Allegany, Wyoming, and Livingston to Monroe Counties.

Part six: explore the GVG as it leaves the river and travels east of Belfast past the Canal Warehouse. Meet at canal crossing of Gleason Hill Road just south of Belfast and west of Route 19.

Hike is 4 miles and will take about four hours.
  by nydepot
 
I'm not sure when Shortcut was redone, the 80s? Anyway I've been there. When you stand on the road and look in either direction and see how big the chunk is they dug out by hand, you know why it's Deep Cut and have a sense of awe at how horrible it must have been. It's why we have earth-moving equipment.

Charles
thebigham wrote:^Thanks, Charles! When did they do that? Did you ever see it?

There is a scheduled hike through here this Sunday through Letchworth St Park:

http://nysparks.com/events/event-results.aspx?pk=79" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Genesee Valley Canal Trail (Locks Section) Nature Walk
Sunday, September 14, 2014 01:00 PM - 03:00 PM
Letchworth State Park
Phone: (585) 493-3600

This general nature walk will be highlighted by what is met along the way of the Genesee Valley Canal Trail. Meet at the junction of Oakland Road and Route 436 in Oakland, NY. Will car pool.

Walk is 2 hours, 1 mile.

It is a "Nature" walk. I'm going to attend anyway.

Chris
  by RussNelson
 
thebigham wrote:Is this the location of "Deep Cut"?

http://binged.it/WQjVDA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It doesn't like there is a deep cut there anymore.

Here's a pic of when the PRR ran through there:

http://www.letchworthparkhistory.com/lpa177.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Do any of the mile posts still stand?
I don't remember seeing any mile posts. There is still a deep cut, but because they didn't put in culverts when they filled in where the bridge was, it's now backed up with enough water to look like the canal. The Chautaqua Rails-to-Trails have the same problem in two places. Filled-in bridge and a cut filled with water.
  by thebigham
 
Russ, did you ride the Hinsdale section?

I've hiked it the l past 2 weekends and did some work clearing brush. It is very overgrown in places.
  by thebigham
 
The Greenway has a "Friends" page on Facebook:

Friends of the Genesee Valley Greenway (FOGVG)

https://www.facebook.com/groups/119546884730693/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It only has 10 members. Please join the FB group if you hike/photograph/ride the Greenway.
  by RussNelson
 
Hmmmm..... I see that I edited it at some point in OSM, but I completely neglected to ride it. I didn't have time on my way south -- it started to rain and was nearly pitch dark by the time I got to Hinsdale on that Saturday, but I could have ridden it Sunday morning if only I had remembered it existed. It's only about 1km long, but I'll put it back on my todo list.
  by thebigham
 
I hiked a bit of the Greenway near Portageville and at Mt. Morris last Friday:

Bridge piers still stand for the former PRR bridge over the Geneseee River at Portageville:
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219801" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What were these stones for:
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219802" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Coupler laying in the woods:
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219803" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Greenway bridge in Mt. Morris:
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219804" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here's a small pic of the PRR bridge when it was in operation:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5 ... SX300_.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
  by FarmallBob
 
thebigham wrote: What were these stones for:
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=219802" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Those may cut stone salvaged from a canal lock then left unused by the railroad.

The WNY&PA (or PRR) occasionally salvaged cut stone from abandoned canal structures for use along the railroad. An example can be found at Lock #2 in Chili. Most of of the top course of stone block of is missing from the east wall of the lock chamber. The blocks were moved several miles south and dropped around a culvert near Oatka Creek, apparently to reduce bank erosion around the culvert entrance during the spring runoff.

...FB
  by RussNelson
 
The section of the Greenway south of NY-305 (south of Belfast) is much fun for a railfan, as the Erie runs right next to the PRR for a while. Just south of the parking area are two+two bridges, all of them in place.
  by charlie6017
 
thebigham wrote:On page 17, the track charts start for the Rochester Branch:

http://kc.pennsyrr.com/maps/downloads/t ... branch.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Wow, this is GREAT! Thanks for posting this.......I'll surely spend quite a while "wasting-time" poring through this! :P

Charlie
  by thebigham
 
I did some hiking on the Greenway at Rockville Lake back in early November. This section is wide and very well maintained:

http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=220695" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=220692" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Milepost
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=220693" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; washout
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=220694" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; remains of Lock 79

Then I hiked at Piffard:

http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=220696" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=220697" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; MP26
http://photos.greatrails.net/s/?p=220698" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; collapsed embankment
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