Green Line Type 10 thread

[Adams_Umass_Boston]

Considering the Type 9s are CAF and seem problem free , I can see why the T went with them.

[diburning]

It figures the MBTA would go with CAF. Cracks were discovered in the wheel arches of the CAF Urbos 3 trams
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-06/ ... 20Thursday.

They are currently being replaced by Alstom Citadis trams used on other lines.
https://youtu.be/X1U6dvCkxLc

I hope this isn't a premonition of what's to come.

There's no need to panic. It's not the end of the world. Realize that the CAF Urbos 3 is used all around the world and that Sydney's problems are probably just related to that batch. Once they fix them, they'll redeploy them in other cities in New South Wales. Newcastle, for example, also uses those trams, and they're starting up a new tram network out of Paramatta that will also use CAF Urbos 3s, so they can use those there as well. The reason for replacing the Urbos 3 in Sydney is because the other two tram lines use Alstom Citadis cars which use the APS (Alstom Power System) which is essentially an on-demand third rail, and they'd prefer the Dulwich Hill line, which is the only line using the Urbos 3 because it is under wire the entire length, to switch to the Citadis for interoperability for demand leveling purposes.

[sb150]

So by the time Charlie Card II is ready, the culture of fare evasion should be well established.

I have bad news for you about fare recovery on the surface branches of the Green Line.

You only have to watch the number of fare evaders at unmanned entrances (even the manned gates) to get an idea of how much revenue will be lost.

[JCitron]

Thanks for that. That makes sense too to keep the power consistent across the board on the lines rather than having two different systems since that allows for interoperability and transferring of power should that be needed.

What you said, does put my mind at ease. I am aware of the other CAF Type 9s.

I've been watching a lot of Transportvlog's (Paul) videos, and he's shown some amazing things that the MBTA should use as inspiration back here.

It figures the MBTA would go with CAF. Cracks were discovered in the wheel arches of the CAF Urbos 3 trams
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-06/ ... 20Thursday.

They are currently being replaced by Alstom Citadis trams used on other lines.
https://youtu.be/X1U6dvCkxLc

I hope this isn't a premonition of what's to come.

There's no need to panic. It's not the end of the world. Realize that the CAF Urbos 3 is used all around the world and that Sydney's problems are probably just related to that batch. Once they fix them, they'll redeploy them in other cities in New South Wales. Newcastle, for example, also uses those trams, and they're starting up a new tram network out of Paramatta that will also use CAF Urbos 3s, so they can use those there as well. The reason for replacing the Urbos 3 in Sydney is because the other two tram lines use Alstom Citadis cars which use the APS (Alstom Power System) which is essentially an on-demand third rail, and they'd prefer the Dulwich Hill line, which is the only line using the Urbos 3 because it is under wire the entire length, to switch to the Citadis for interoperability for demand leveling purposes.