Does anybody know if the PRR or PC ran GG1's or any other electric
loco down the West Chester Branch?
loco down the West Chester Branch?
He is a railroad man. Isn't there a discount for a railroad man?
pennsy wrote:Interesting points, Walt.Alan---IIRC, there wasn't even enough track room at Media or West Chester for even the run by that you mention. In the last days of service to West Chester, there was only a single track at the terminal ( in fact the entire line was single track west of Media). And I agree- it would have been theoretically possible for a GG1 headed train to handle the constant acceleration & deceleration which characterised operation on that line, it would not have been the most efficient use of that locomotive. The MP-54's, with their top speed of only 50 MPH, were perfectly adequate, though in later years not the most well received units, for that line. I don't know what the top speed of the present Silverliner equipment is, but I doubt that they're running at more than 60 MPH over most of what is left of that line.
However, all you needed at the end of line for a GG-1 to reverse itself was a run around track for the engine to escape from one end of the train, run around the train, and then couple up to the opposite end.
With respect to the GG-1's ability to handle commuter trains as a subway, with many stations and the need for rapid acceleration to speed and then rapid deceleration so as not to over run the station. Remember the GG-1 had 100 % short term overload capability for rapid acceleration, and effectively dynamic brakes for rapid deceleration, dumping the generated power back into the catenary. So, effectively, the GG-1 could put up to 10,000 hp on the rails to rapidly get the train up to speed, in a very short period of time. Therefore, theoretically at least, the GG-1 could have handled that service.
the sarge wrote:That fits my recollection. I remember when my parents told me that from now on we would have to change trains at Media whenever we went to West Chester-- prior to that it was a one seat ride.
Wasn’t it in 1957 when the PRR made the West Chester – Media segment only a shuttle? Then soon after, canceled Sunday service? Also, for years, the PRR petitioned to close the Market street station and move the terminus up to Nields street.
the sarge wrote:There is a some speculation about the roundhouse in West Chester. There was a three stall building near Lacey Street by the yard and near the freight house. I’ve heard this building referred to as just a three stall engine house or roundhouse. I assumed it was a roundhouse because there was a turntable at this site. The question I need to confirm is: Was this a turntable apart from the engine house used for engine turnarounds, or was it a typical turntables used for roundhouses. I think at one point, the maximum number of steam locomotives assigned to this facility were eight. No maintenance work aside from typical daily duties were performed at the site; it was mainly a place to store the locos and keep them fired when idle.I have worked on updating the transportation articles at the Chester County Historical Society. There was a three-stall engine house there until it burned in 1911 with the loss of one engine. I cannot confirm what its exact configuration was, but a 1912 map shows a turntable there with multiple tracks that I guess were used for storage of the freight engines and those used on the Frazer branch. After electrification, the turntable was abolished and replaced with a wye where the Wyeth plant was. You may want to check both the PRR file and the West Chester transportation newspaper clippings files at CCHS if you want to know more.