• Future of Septa Regional Rail Fleet

  • Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.
Discussion relating to Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority (Philadelphia Metro Area). Official web site can be found here: www.septa.com. Also including discussion related to the PATCO Speedline rapid transit operated by Delaware River Port Authority. Official web site can be found here: http://www.ridepatco.org/.

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  by PHLSpecial
 
Interesting there is only one level door from the photo. The interiors looks like the SLV
Hopefully there will be space for bikes and luggage racks.

Seems like we will get half the deliveries this year.

Edit: I'm curious if Septa will pick up more ACS-64 unless Septa plans on retiring the bombardier push-pull cars
  by CNJGeep
 
PHLSpecial wrote:Interesting there is only one level door from the photo.
Quarter point doors. There's no end door on that car at that end since it's a cab car.
Seems like we will get half the deliveries this year.
First cars next year
Edit: I'm curious if Septa will pick up more ACS-64 unless Septa plans on retiring the bombardier push-pull cars
The most recent plan I heard was:
7 6-Car Single Levels
7 6-Car Multilevels
One spare ACS, just like with the AEM-7s. Actually, one more spare than with the AEM-7s.
  by rcthompson04
 
CNJGeep wrote: Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:02 am
PHLSpecial wrote:Interesting there is only one level door from the photo.
Quarter point doors. There's no end door on that car at that end since it's a cab car.
Seems like we will get half the deliveries this year.
First cars next year
Edit: I'm curious if Septa will pick up more ACS-64 unless Septa plans on retiring the bombardier push-pull cars
The most recent plan I heard was:
7 6-Car Single Levels
7 6-Car Multilevels
One spare ACS, just like with the AEM-7s. Actually, one more spare than with the AEM-7s.
Nice cars. Any thoughts on what runs would be logical candidates to receive the cars? Doubling the number of push pull runs would be pretty dramatic upgrade. You could cover almost all the expresses with 12 push pull sets in the current schedule.
  by CNJGeep
 
I apologize, I meant to say 6 6-Car Single-Level Consists. There are only 35 trailers.
  by Silverliner5
 
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  by Silverliner5
 
Quick question how many Active Silverliner 4s are left in service?
  by Silverliner5
 
Also, would it be possible for Septa to import some trains from other countries such as the trains I posted before on page 9 cause Amtrak back in the 90s and 70s import European locos so I'm thinking that Septa could import and test the Hankyu 1000 series on their lines before they even purchase one
  by eolesen
 
Not going to happen. Those Japanese cars as-is won't pass FRA testing.

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  by Silverliner5
 
Is it because of the weight of the car or strength of it to be as strong as American EMUs? cause I think septa could actually buy one of those but into their specification to work here in the USA since they're built by hitachi Rail
  by RandallW
 
Existing Japanese designs need to be re-engineered to fit the existing SEPTA system, which would wipe out any advantage of "reuse", starting with track gauge differences, loading gauge differences, to meet FRA crashworthiness standards, and that Japanese passenger equipment is built to exclusively use high level platforms (and likely are sized to a different height high platform than the existing SEPTA high platforms). That re-engineering would erase the cost advantage of importing the design.
  by rcthompson04
 
The Metro North M8s would be a good starting point, but would require modifications for low level boarding and removal of the third rail.
  by Silverliner5
 
RandallW wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2022 5:16 am Existing Japanese designs need to be re-engineered to fit the existing SEPTA system, which would wipe out any advantage of "reuse", starting with track gauge differences, loading gauge differences, to meet FRA crashworthiness standards, and that Japanese passenger equipment is built to exclusively use high level platforms (and likely are sized to a different height high platform than the existing SEPTA high platforms). That re-engineering would erase the cost advantage of importing the design.
Actually you're right about the Importing part but SEPTA could re-engineer that design with low steps, length to be 85 foot long, and 10 foot wide (although the smallest is Silverliner 4 at 9ft 11 inches wide)
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