Flying Scotsman

The Flying Scotsman train, not the locomotive, but here's how the inside of the dining car looked in 1962

But today, it's a modern train.

Yes, today I believe it's normally a Class 91 electric loco, a set of Mk 4 coaches and a DVT.

Not sure exactly what that 1962 photo is, but it's probably a Mk 1.

It certainly looks like it--my own feeling is that BR never built anything later that was more comfortable that the Mark I's. I wondered for a long time whether they were really as comfortable as I thought I remembered; then, back when they were still in use on the Settle & Carlisle I rode in one and my memory was correct; you really sank down into those seats. (I've noticed the same thing in Germany and the US--anything built after the 1960's seems to have harder seats than what they replaced.)

Flying Scotsman - the train, not the engine. Here's a photo of one of Patrick Stirling's eight foot singles that pulled the train between London and York in the later 19th Century on the Great Northern Railway.
Here's a link to Mike's Rail Hisory on the Flying Scotsman train.
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Earle Baldwin wrote:
Hi, Philip.

If you're interested in more information about Singles, a nice book to have would be "Patrick Stirling's Locomotives" by L.T.C. Rolt published in 1964 by Hamish Hamilton. Although it's been many years since it was in print, copies typically are not frightfully expensive. There are several copies presently available from third party sellers on Amazon.

I just got the book today and it is a gem. 64 pages, most illustrated with 19th Century photos and drawings. I got it "used" for a total of $13.50, shipped from the UK. It was in the University of Bath library, and apparently there aren't any rail fans there because it looks unused.
Thank you, Bob.

Hi, Philip.

My pleasure. I'm happy to hear you like the book.

Bob

Flying Scotsman photos 14th June 2016

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Just my personal mentality: I find the GNR single more interesting than the pacific. I'm a fan of the 19th Century, especially since I don't have to endure its harsh realities.
GNR Stirling Single No1 running on the Great Central in the early 1980's. Thank you YouTube.
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The National Railway Museum's Stirling "Single" No 1 being shunted at Southall Railway Depot whilst en route to Waterloo Station to take part in a production of the Railway Children from July to September 2010.
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Seeing this single working is making me squeek.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxMIPzCryuQ" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Calidonian single 123 working.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5reFpqKqAo#t=83.753832" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Good point--I think there were many interesting elements in the 19th century, but they are best viewed from a distance.

I find some of the earliest steam locos from the early 19th century to be fascinating. Not so much the Rocket, which has become so familiar as to be almost routine, but some of the other early contraptions. There are working replicas of quite a few of them around.

johnthefireman wrote:I find some of the earliest steam locos from the early 19th century to be fascinating.

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This Spanish engine, I suppose a replica, looks like an early design.

That's a Swiss engine, a replica of LIMMAT, one of the earliest in Switzerland, which operated over the railway from Baden to Zurich. Baden was famous for a type of apricot pastry much favored locally, called a Spanisch Broetli (Spanish bun), and the pastries were among the goods conveyed to Zurich by the new railway; the story goes that that was how the railway got the name "Spanisch-Broetli-Bahn." It is also thought that the square shape of the buns and of the firebox may have given rise to the nickname. Take a good look at the side rods on the second engine, GENF (Geneva). (The footage beginning around 1:11 suggests that this belongs under "No more steam on the main lines.")

Excellent, informative post, ExCon. The fact that every one was speaking German, or a dialect of it, should have given me a hint that it wasn't a Spanish train. Now for a Spanisch Broetli, and a look at that happy little video again.
A comment by mechanicsnut 4 years ago states that "The smaller, single driver, engine....is a Norris type locomotive of 1847 vintage,"
The first Norris locomotive, constructed in 1832, had the boiler and valve gears patterned after locomotives built by Robert Stephenson.
Just to wave the American flag a bit, Norris locomotives: the first illustration is the Locomotive England, built in America for the British Birmingham & Gloucester Railway; the middle, is an 1842 advertisement; and the bottom, the Tioga leaving the Norris Works in 1848.

To make amends here's an article on the Flying Scotsman. https://books.google.com/books?id=ecazm ... p&sig=8-qM" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;