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  by diburning
 
TrainFan1035 wrote: Sat Sep 24, 2022 12:28 pm I think it might be the minuteman scheme. (Which i have no idea if its the red and yellow one or the blue, black and white one, Though im pretty sure its the red and yellow one)
Turned out that the black paint on 1070 was not actual paint it was primer (from what i heard)
The photos I've seen of the 1070 clearly showed the black paint as glossy. Primer isn't usually glossy, and usually isn't black (because it darks the color painted on top of it).

We'll find out soon, won't we? It would be funny if the red and white of the McGinnis scheme end up being applied as decals instead of actual paint.
  by NH2060
 
Literally had no idea the T was even considering heritage units, let alone actively undertaking the process of doing so at all until I looked up the tail end of this thread just for the heck of it. So needless to say there will be some very pleasantly surprised commuters within the next couple of months :-D

Since #1070 is painted in glossy black as -presumably- the base coat I'd be willing to bet this one is the NYC unit. Sounds like the T is going for the black carbody with a light gray lightning stripe akin to what the Finger Lakes Railway has applied to their locomotives. So imagine the livery on their GP40s but applied to an F40.

RE: the B&M "Bluebird" scheme, by "Bluebird" we are talking about the deep blue carbody with the black cab and white vertical stripes on the ends, correct? AKA the current Mass Central GP-38 scheme?

Disclaimer: I would actually rather that over the "Minuteman" livery even if it used the *non-#4226* McGinnis F-3 look. I think it would look spectacular! And as a side note, that "B+M" logo was clearly an attempt to give the B&M the "Herbert Matter" look. Not the worst thing I've seen, but the regular McGinnis "B&M" "butterfly"(?) logo was perfect IMO. And I sure would not want either that ugly light blue with thin red, white, and blue livery or the 1980s bright blue with bland modern font.

RE: the NH heritage unit... maybe the 1070 *is* the NH unit and is slated to get the Alpert pinstripes with red orange "NH" block logos? AKA the C424/5 look? Or is it more or less confirmed that it is indeed the McGinnis "mustache" livery?

Now seeing as the T appears to be going with the "Minuteman" livery for the B&M unit imagine if the T went with the FA/PA green with gold stripes and the olde script logo for the NH unit? :wink:
  by CRail
 
NH2060 wrote: Sun Sep 25, 2022 12:18 pm RE: the B&M "Bluebird" scheme, by "Bluebird" we are talking about the deep blue carbody with the black cab and white vertical stripes on the ends, correct? AKA the current Mass Central GP-38 scheme?
Correct, that is the bluebird scheme.
  by BandA
 
Not for nothing, but shouldn't the MBTA, which is teetering on insolvency, be focusing on safety and repairs and not on heritage paint schemes? (Unless they want to commit to the Mattapan line as a permanent heritage line, then we can talk about whether they should be in green, red or Boston Elevated schemes)...

Okay, I do like pretty paint though. I liked the B&M's very classy one-off replacement for the wrecked unit that used Minuteman-like colors, with apparently metallic burgundy replacing the usual purple. There is the elephant in the room - B&M used a blue paint that faded and chalked quickly and probably has a lot of oxides in it that don't protect the metal.
  by theMainer
 
The two dead coaches next to the Lowell Line tracks at BET have what appears to be some test paint schemes applied to them in some NH like colors. Anyone know if they could relate to the Heritage Scheme program?
  by nomis
 
Painted for a movie, and trucked back to BET.
  by theMainer
 
You wouldn't happen to know which movie?
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  by GP40MC1118
 
Don't know, but they were in storage in Rochester, brought to Abington, then trucked to Weymouth where the repaint/filming was done.
I tried to snoop around the Mass Film Commission webpage, but didn't find anything.
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