• Empire Builder on the Ground in MT

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Discussion related to Amtrak also known as the National Railroad Passenger Corp.

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  by STrRedWolf
Local news teams in Harve, Montana are covering the story:

KXLY: https://www.kxly.com/amtrak-train-derai ... c/2933226/

KHQ: https://www.khq.com/news/montana-emerge ... 13669.html

Photos in both point the train as derailed in Buelow, Montana. One car is on it's side. Everyone's evacuated or being rescued.
  by STrRedWolf
KSEN AM radio now showing photos of what looks like three cars on their side: https://ksenam.com/westbound-empire-bui ... n-montana/

As much as I want to speculate, I'm going to hold off until we get word of injuries/casualties/etc.
  by John_Perkowski
Let the NTSB investigation and the lawsuits against Amtrak and BNSF commence.

I hope the worst injuries are broken bones, and I hopefully only a few of them.
  by wigwagfan
Two cars on the end of the train. Train nearly exactly halfway between Havre and Shelby, the closest significant towns with a medical center. About 75 miles north of Great Falls.

Also, KXLY and KREM are Spokane stations - hopefully the local media will start providing more updates soon:



Everyone: This derailment occurred near Joplin, Liberty County, Montana at East Buelow interlocking. The train number was 7/27 westbound CHI-SEA with 147 passengers and 13 crew members aboard.
Five Amtrak Superliner cars are reported to be derailed - with at least one over on its side.
US Route 2 parallels the BNSF across northern Montana - the derailment was at US-2 MT mile 330.

Google search "Amtrak Empire Builder Train #7/27 west derailment - Joplin, MT 9/25" for more news.
  by CNJGeep
What is the makeup of the Builder? Sleepers on the rear or coaches?
  by photobug56
An Empire Builder derailed today in Montanna, around 4PM Mountain Time. 5 cars (not entire train). Seems to have been front portion of train, no idea what type of loco. Happened in the middle of nowhere, at least 3 fatalities, dozens of injuries. No idea of cause, but one has to wonder if 'it had help'. Lots of poor photos and video online, little viable information.

Some cars tilted, some on their side, some upright on the track.
  by BandA
There is a signal located in the photos at the location of the derailment. I assume this is single-track territory, but does anyone know if there is a siding or crossover in the area? Is there a grade crossing, culvert, stream, etc?
  by John_Perkowski
  by electricron
CNJGeep wrote: Sat Sep 25, 2021 8:57 pm What is the makeup of the Builder? Sleepers on the rear or coaches?
Sleepers are split on the EB in Montana, some are on the front and some are on the rear of the train.
  by photobug56
One person who claims to know the area is making an educated GUESS that the train was coming out of a siding at low speed (hence no telescoping style damage obvious) and that there was something 'wrong' with the switch, and that the train could not make it through. It was also noted that if the train were not on a siding, it likely would have been making a much higher speed. FWIW
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