• EMD SD45 series official thread (covers all variations)

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Discussion of Electro-Motive locomotive products and technology, past and present. Official web site can be found here: http://www.emdiesels.com/.

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  by crazy_nip
 
SSW9389 wrote:According to sources on THE Santa Fe list the FP45s were regeared to standard 62:15 freight gearing. One source says immediately after Amtrak started and the other says after their rebuilds. Both are or were ex-Santa Fe employees.
they were, but not until the early to mid 90's when the rest of the higher geared engines were re-geared (the SD45-2's)

it was about the same time that the gp60m's and -8's started showing up

  by Allen Hazen
 
Crazy Nip--
Thanks! It makes sense: in the late 1980s and beginning of the 1990s ATSF got something like ?? 240 ?? 3800 (EMD) - 4000 (GE) hp four-motor units: obviously intended to be dedicated to high-speed service. So the need for high-speed six-motor units would have declined, so...

  by Railpac
 
Didn't the AT&SF remove the steam generators in the 70's (after they were sure private passenger wasn't making a comeback), essentially making them F45's anyway (although they retained their FP45 designation), but I could be wrong.

  by mp15ac
 
That's correct. Eventually Santa Fe started refering to them as SDFP45 (and SDF45 for the F45).

Stuart

  by crazy_nip
 
Railpac wrote:Didn't the AT&SF remove the steam generators in the 70's (after they were sure private passenger wasn't making a comeback), essentially making them F45's anyway

removing the steam generator doesnt instantly make a locomotive a different model

there is:

the 5 -7 feet of extra frame and carbody still present

the water tanks under the frame (in the gas tank iirc)

all the run-through plumbing for steam lines

longer gas tank

a few other subtle differences...

witness EL's SDP45's

they never HAD their steam generators to begin with, and they still had the "P" designation

F45

  by pgb
 
Anyone know when the last of these units was withdrawn, I've seen pictures of some in Kodacrome colors and some in BN. What would have been the last scheme/s these would have been painted in.

-Paul

  by Hambone
 
Does the Wisconsin Central still have any?

  by TerryC
 
After the Wisconsin Central merged with Canadian National the F45s were retired quickly. Montana Rail Link has a few.

keep asking keep learning

  by emd_SD_60
 
Some of the BN ones went to NYSW, I think they're now all retired... :(

  by Hambone
 
too bad, they looked beautiful in WC paint. Are they still considered a separate entity, or have they been absorbed?
Hey, what happend with the IC? Are they still seperate?
Out of touch....

  by trainmaster_1
 
Both IC and WC were absorbed into CN, there locomotives still run around in the WC and IC paint schemes but both of these's railroads are gone....

  by Hambone
 
Still any old IC engines in GM&0/ICG paint, or is that long gone too?
Weird how Canada now runs the Midwest! Is the Iowa line still active?
I worked for the CC&P for a bit after High School, at their piggyback facility down at Hawthorne. 3rd shift, what a horrible job that was...but lots of cool motive power running about. Wonder what ever happened to all those ex Milwaukee Road GP20s?

  by ANDY117
 
The last NYSW F45 is 3636 in Utica. It hasn't run since the mid 90's. But some think it may be resurrected soon :-) .
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