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Discussion relating to the Delaware, Lackawanna & Western, the Erie, and the resulting 1960 merger creating the Erie Lackawanna. Visit the Erie Lackawanna Historical Society at http://www.erielackhs.org/.

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 #63819  by RiverMP21
 
The idea for forming the Erie Lackawanna Dining Car Preservation Society in spring of 2001 was to purchase and restore former Lackawanna/Erie Lackawanna Phoebe Snow Diner 470/770. Several of us on the list had become aware that the car was for sale, and our goal was to organize a nonprofit to purchase 470/770, restore it to its former appearance, and operate it on today's Delaware-Lackawanna out of Scranton. We were highly motivated by the idea that this car could perhaps once again run over the restored Lackawanna cutoff in gray, maroon, and yellow. Years of service at Strates Shows had taken its toll on the exterior of 470/770. We knew the car would take a lot of work, but we were confident that we could succeed. Many Lackawanna fans at the time were ready and willing to assist our new organization financially with the asked for donation of $200.00 per person to meet the purchase price of $25,000. In a truly nonpartisan show of support, the Erie fans also showed their enthusiasm for the purchase and restoration of this very historic stainless steel Budd built Diner.

As we were forming ELDCPS as a nonprofit organization, and working on fundraising to save the car, events moved faster then we were able to. The owner of 470/770 sold the car to American Orient Express before we could conclude the deal. Of course, we were very disappointed, but their was little we could do. Larry DeYoung came to our rescue, and pointed out that their might be a former Erie heavyweight Diner for sale in PA. The Erie car thus became the only former EL diner available, and we moved quickly to purchase Erie/EL 741.

As we moved forward with 741, ELDCPS realized that our mission and goal would slightly change. We would embrace the concept of acquiring and restoring enough former EL cars, and other related equipment, to sponsor a recreation of an EL thru line passenger train. We have appropriately named this project "THE LAKE CITIES PROJECT."

Since that time, ELDCPS accepted the donation of former NKP 10/6 Pullman built sleeper "City of Lima." This car is in excellent condition, and operated over the Lackawanna/Erie Lackawanna during the thru passenger years. Erie Lackawanna Equipment Leasing has assisted this effort with the acquisition of 6-6-4 Pullman "American Way II," and former DL&W/EL Phoebe Snow coach 1318. We are on our way to achieving our goal.

ELDCPS is proud to announce that we have signed a contract to purchase the Lackawanna Diner from American Orient Express. We are indebted to AOE, their President, the Chief Mechanical Officer, and to John Suscheck at Ozark Mountain Railcar for their efforts in assisting ELDCPS with this very important acquisition.

The purchase price for 470/770 is $10,000.00. AOE has a lot more than that in the car, so we are very fortunate to purchase the car for that price. John Suscheck informed us last week that AOE had just placed the Lackawanna Diner up for sale. ELDCPS took quick action to negotiate and secure a contract to purchase 470/770. Our position from the very beginning is that this very historic car should be owned by ELDCPS, and be made available for all to enjoy once the car is restored to service.

However, we want to make it clear that we will finish restoration on Diner 741, before any work will begin on 470/770. NKP City of Lima also has priority, as we would like the car to be finished for an event we have planned for October 2005. We continue to solicit donations for the NKP paint job for this very nice 10/6.

The Lackawanna Phoebe Snow Diner will be a very important addition to our growing fleet of historic and authentic equipment. Many of you originally wanted to donate funds for the acquisition of 470/770, and we are going to ask all of you again to consider assisting us with this great purchase. We must raise the funds and complete the purchase price by the end of March 2005. We will be updating our website with current exterior and interior photos of 470, as well as information on how to donate. Details can be found on our website at: www.eldcps.org

ELDCPS has made a preliminary decision to restore the car as Lackawanna 470. We want to restore the interior and exterior of the car as it was during the time it operated in Lackawanna service on the Phoebe Snow. We can thus portray with 470 the Phoebe Snow era, as well as the early E-L era. Lackawanna Diner 470 will return to the "Road of Anthracite," and again serve excellently prepared meals by waiters in historically accurate Phoebe Snow jackets.

At ELDCPS, our mission and vision is moving forward, and soon we will be able to offer an authentic and historic Erie Lackawanna thru passenger train. Lackawanna Diner 770 will proudly join E-L Diner 741, NKP City of Lima, and Erie Lackawanna Equipment Leasing's cars to offer a truly authentic train set.

Why not join our growing membership? Become a member today and participate in a very important historic project!

The Erie Lackawanna Dining Car Preservation Society, Inc. is a 501c3 non-profit organization.