• Downeaster Trackwork & Upgrades

  • Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.
Guilford Rail System changed its name to Pan Am Railways in 2006. Discussion relating to the current operations of the Boston & Maine, the Maine Central, and the Springfield Terminal railroads (as well as the Delaware & Hudson while it was under Guilford control until 1988). Official site can be found here: PANAMRAILWAYS.COM.

Moderator: MEC407

  by truman
 
Dick H wrote:I did a little research on the Durham track work. At the present time, there are no plans to add a second track at Durham. The state of NH is requiring all bridge construction to make provisions for restoring the second track, that was removed in the 1960's. In addtion to the new bridge at Durham, the new Route #155 overpass in Madbury has been constructed to allow for the second track in the future.

The current Downeaster trackwork is doing projects in Scarborough and Wells, ME, Dover/Rollinsford and Exeter NH. The Exeter project is for replacement of some welded rail that was originally installed by the Boston and Maine Railroad approximately 30 years ago and was not changed in the big Downeaster project in 2000-2001. The other projects are for siding upgrades and additions.

Dick H.
There is also some rail grinding going on south of Exeter on a sharp curve that has been a problem almost since day one.

Point of information: Although the "old B&M" installed some welded rail at the in-town Exeter crossings in 1977 to avoid having joints buried in asphalt, the rest remained stick rail until the pre-service upgrade in 2000/01, when it was replaced with new welded rail. In the winter of 2001/02, there was widespread chaos all along the line when the new welded rail began to separate when the temperatures dropped below freezing.

  by roberttosh
 
Is it just me, or does it seem like for every person that actually responds to a question on this website, there's a hundred or so that view it?? I guess that's probably how it works on most message boards, but just seems like there are an awful lot of couch potato railfans out there :-)

In any event, thought I'd check out the siding work in Scarborough myself, and while it was just two trips in my car over the Rt 207 bridge, noticed that North/East of the bridge, the second track looks tamped and pretty much good to go, while South/West of the bridge, the track is just ties and rail and not even laid in a very straight line. The track stops maybe 200 yards South/West of the bridge and I didn't see any switch lying around, so still some work to do. Again, this was all viewed at 40 MPH, so I could have missed some details, but doesn't look like the siding, at least for now, is going much past Rt 207.

  by cpf354
 
roberttosh wrote:Is it just me, or does it seem like for every person that actually responds to a question on this website, there's a hundred or so that view it?? I guess that's probably how it works on most message boards, but just seems like there are an awful lot of couch potato railfans out there :-)

In any event, thought I'd check out the siding work in Scarborough myself, and while it was just two trips in my car over the Rt 207 bridge, noticed that North/East of the bridge, the second track looks tamped and pretty much good to go, while South/West of the bridge, the track is just ties and rail and not even laid in a very straight line. The track stops maybe 200 yards South/West of the bridge and I didn't see any switch lying around, so still some work to do. Again, this was all viewed at 40 MPH, so I could have missed some details, but doesn't look like the siding, at least for now, is going much past Rt 207.
Does anyone know if it will go as far a Winnock's Crossing? That would make sense since the interlocking switch and signals would be easily accessible to signal and track crews. I thought I read that there is going to be a CPF203 in the picture?

  by Rockingham Racer
 
In looking at my Oxford Press Timetable, I'm assuming Rt. 207 is Black Point Rd. at MP 202.3. Winnock's Neck Rd. is at MP 203.2, another mile.
The speed limit on the exisiting main is 70, and jumps to 79 at Winnock's.

It would be good to get that extra mile of track in to Winnock's, if the track was designated as Main Track, with a high speed turnout. If it's designated a siding, then I suppose they'd creep that extra mile at 30 MPH, and would actually lose a little time getting to Winnock's before getting on the main track.

  by roberttosh
 
Winnocks Rd crossing is about a half mile or so further West/South past the curve. As of right now, it doesn't look like they're going that far. Would love to know what the exact reason was for this work??

  by NV290
 
The new switch is installed. It's going to be a few hundred yards east of Winnocks Neck rd. The signal bases are ready to be installed as well up at the switch. New signals (LED type TRI-G's) were already installed west of Winnocks Neck as the distant signals for the new interlocking.

The reason for th enew interlocking is accomodate more trains to clear the main for Amtrak. Wells and Dover sidings are now in effect, two sidings as a new switch has been added in the middle of each. That is the same principle of what is going on up by Winnocks Neck rd. CPF201 still exsists, but now the extension doubles the capacity. In all, now Guilford has 3 more locations to duck in freight trains AND to allow more flexibiltiy for the Downeasters new 5th train.

  by GRSguy13
 
I saw this today, my mother said that it went by two times before.
<img src="http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1254/532 ... e63352.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Federal Railroad Admin.">

  by MEC407
 
GRSguy13 wrote:I saw this today, my mother said that it went by two times before.
Where did you see it? Locations are always helpful information. :wink:

Also, welcome to the forum!

  by GRSguy13
 
Exeter, NH

and thank you very much.

  by roberttosh
 
NV290 wrote:The new switch is installed. It's going to be a few hundred yards east of Winnocks Neck rd. The signal bases are ready to be installed as well up at the switch. New signals (LED type TRI-G's) were already installed west of Winnocks Neck as the distant signals for the new interlocking.

The reason for th enew interlocking is accomodate more trains to clear the main for Amtrak. Wells and Dover sidings are now in effect, two sidings as a new switch has been added in the middle of each. That is the same principle of what is going on up by Winnocks Neck rd. CPF201 still exsists, but now the extension doubles the capacity. In all, now Guilford has 3 more locations to duck in freight trains AND to allow more flexibiltiy for the Downeasters new 5th train.
Was the existing freight lead East of CPF 201 rehabbed with CWR; and if so, how far East was the track rehabbed and where does it tie back into the passenger main? Thanks!

  by CN9634
 
I say double track the whole thing! :wink: (We, I don't pay taxes yet either so maybe thats a bad thing)

  by Skullitor
 
CN9634 wrote:I say double track the whole thing! :wink: (We, I don't pay taxes yet either so maybe thats a bad thing)
:wink: I agree with ya!

  by NV290
 
roberttosh wrote:Was the existing freight lead East of CPF 201 rehabbed with CWR; and if so, how far East was the track rehabbed and where does it tie back into the passenger main? Thanks!
There has not been any track rehab to the lead east of 201 as of yet. And more then likley, there won't be aside from maybe some tie work. The reason being is since once that track reaches CPF200 and the "END SIGNAL TERRITORY" sign, it becomes 5mph restricted speed. The fastest that track would ever safely be is 10mph, which it is now. It will also not tie in to the single track main going East either as there is no need for it. They already have their new eastbound siding at 201. Amtrak will never use that track as it is a yard lead. Westbound trains can wait there to enter at 201 when traffic allows or eastbound freights destined for the yard can pull in there. The real "Siding" is new track that extends from 201 west. That can be a traditional "In-N-Out" siding for Amtrak or through freights where the speed will be 25mph to allow Amtrak and Freights to be alot more effecient. It also allows a Rigby bound eastbound to clear sooner then 201 and faster as opposed to Amtrak having to wait for a freight to crawl in at 10mph a mile further east.

The two most troublesome spots on the route to Maine are for westbounds entering at Rollinsford and Rockingham where the speed is 10mph. Both locations are preceeded by a steep grade going west. The combination of both speed and grade makes these locations major slowdowns. Rollinsford will be fixed soon and when it becomes 25mph, you can almost triple the time it takes a westbound to clear up there. There is no sign of any work (or rail) at Rockingham so if and when that is fixed remains to be seen.

  by roberttosh
 
So is the new siding an extension of the yard lead, or is there a short stretch of single track then the new siding? If it's all one long new siding, then I'm guessing there has to be a new crossover allowing westbound trains on the Passenger main to get over onto the new siding. Thanks!

  by NV290
 
roberttosh wrote:So is the new siding an extension of the yard lead, or is there a short stretch of single track then the new siding? If it's all one long new siding, then I'm guessing there has to be a new crossover allowing westbound trains on the Passenger main to get over onto the new siding. Thanks!
CPF201 was where the Rigby Yard Lead tied onto the single track main. It had one turnout that allowed westbound trains to leave the yard and eastbound train to enter.

Now, instead of the lead merging onto the single track main, the lead extends about a mile further down to a new single turnout which as the original CPF201, allows eastward trains to enter and westward trains to leave. However, at CPF201, now you have a DOUBLE crossover that allows east and west movement onto and off of the (now extended) lead track.
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