• Derailment= East Palestine Ohio

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Discussion relating to the NS operations. Official web site can be found here: NSCORP.COM.
  by fromway
 
NS has approximately 50 cars on the gound after a derailment and fire Friday night. Emergency responders from Ohio, PA and WV are on the scene. All personnel were withdrawn and remote fire suppression was being used overnight due to weather conditions. They were waiting for daylight to put drones up to survey the scene.
  by Bracdude181
 
Apparently the cars either hit a building or diesel storage facility when they derailed. Been pretty bad from what I’ve been hearing.

Entire town under shelter in place order.
1500 to 2000 evacuated.

State of emergency declared and a no fly zone is in effect.

Have also heard there’s chlorine cars burning out there, among other chemicals.

Also, this isn’t far from Conway. What does that mean for NS rail service in both directions? Any available detours?
  by fromway
 
There are already videos on YouTube about the derailment and fire.
  by CraigDK
 
Bracdude181 wrote: Sat Feb 04, 2023 11:17 am Also, this isn’t far from Conway. What does that mean for NS rail service in both directions? Any available detours?
I'm not completely familiar with the operations in the area, but it appears running on the Cleveland Line between Alliance and Conway would be the shortest detour.
  by fromway
 
Don't know if the Wheeling and Lake Erie could provide some detour possibilities. Looks like they are in the vicinity. Could provide some interesting videos.
  by GRSdave
 
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Sat, February 4, 2023 at 4:16 AM EST
EAST PALESTINE, Ohio (AP) — A train derailment and resulting large fire prompted an evacuation order and a declaration of a state of emergency in an Ohio village near the Pennsylvania state line, covering the area in billows of smoke lit orange by the flames below.

About 50 cars derailed in East Palestine as a train was carrying a variety of freight from Madison, Illinois, to Conway, Pennsylvania, rail operator Norfolk Southern said in a statement Saturday. There was no immediate information about what caused the derailment. No injuries were reported.

Mayor Trent Conaway of the village of East Palestine declared a state of emergency, citing a “train derailment with hazardous materials.” Air quality was being monitored throughout a one-mile zone ordered evacuated and there had been no dangerous readings to report, he said.

Norfolk Southern said the train was carrying more than 100 cars, 20 of which were classified as carrying hazardous materials, defined as cargo that could pose any kind of danger "including flammables, combustibles, or environmental risks.”

The National Transportation Safety Board said Saturday that it was “launching a go-team to investigate” the derailment, and board member Michael Graham would “serve as spokesperson on scene."

Firefighters had been pulled from the immediate area and unmanned stream devices are being used protectively while crews try to determine which cars were still actively burning, village officials said in a separate statement Saturday that warned residents that they might hear more explosions as the fire burns.

A high school and community center were opened to shelter dozens of people, while residents beyond that radius were urged to stay inside. The few dozen residents sheltering at the high school included Ann McAnlis, who said a neighbor had texted her about the crash.

“She took a picture of the glow in the sky from the front porch,” McAnlis told WFMJ-TV. “That’s when I knew how substantial this was.”

Conaway said firefighters from three states responded. The derailment happened about 51 miles (82 kilometers) northwest of Pittsburgh and within 20 miles (32 kilometers) of the tip of West Virginia’s Northern Panhandle. Freezing temperatures in the single digits complicated the response as trucks pumping water froze, he said.

Norfolk Southern said it has personnel on-site coordinating with first responders. The fire created so much smoke that meteorologists from the region said it was visible on weather radar.
  by QB 52.32
 
Bracdude181 wrote:Have also heard there’s chlorine cars burning out there, among other chemicals.
So, no chlorine, most-serious hazmat toxic inhalation hazard, thankfully, per this AP report.
  by Bracdude181
 
Good to hear.
  by MACTRAXX
 
Everyone - I Just got notification about this serious NS freight train derailment in East Palestine, OH...
There were cars on fire and some hazmat on board prompting evacuation of the immediate area...

For the record this is the former PRR line that was the route of the "Broadway Limited" between Pittsburgh
and Chicago until Amtrak re-routed the train in 1990 over the former B&O across Ohio and Indiana...
Salem and Alliance are the next cities westward towards Canton...

The OH/PA State Line is at mile 48.5 - the derailment site is within one mile west as shown by MD's post.
Ohio route 165 is the nearest paralleling main road going towards the center of East Palestine...

Search "East Palestine, OH freight train derailment 2/3" in Google or YouTube for more information...

The wreck cleanup and track restoration is going to take some time from overview pictures of the area...
Thankfully there were no serious injuries or worse reported...MACTRAXX
  by Bracdude181
 
I’ve been hearing some of the NJ intermodals are gonna get detoured to Binghampton, take NYSW to Port Jervis, then take the NJT Bergen Main Line to Croxton…
  by Gilbert B Norman
 
OK; so the train was moving Eastward from "roundly St. Louis" to "roundly Pittsburgh". If routed over "The Panhandle" (PRR St. Louis-PGH), that converges with "The Fort Wayne" at Pittsburgh, and misses E. Palestine. The P, FW,&W has been chopped up West of Alliance into a bunch of Short Lines, so how then did this train find its way through E Palestine? (on the route of Amtrak 29&30, Capitol Limited)

Enquiring mind, who might not have his facts straight with PRR routings, wants to know.
  by Roscoe P. Coaltrain
 
32N runs the Wabash out of St Louis, does work at Decatur and Lafayette. At Fort Wayne it could run either the NKP to the Vermillion connector, or stay on the Wabash to Butler and get on the NYC there. It does work at Fairlane Yard in Amherst OH on the NYC, and from there into Cleveland via Berea.
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