pdtrains wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 4:05 am
FWIW....C&D got to work improving the Wash Sec in no time. Undercutting roadbed under low bridge in Pburg for Plate F cars, rebuilding interchange track, installing new switches, rebuilding grade crossing track circuits, etc. Boreolis..largest customer on the line..now has 1 day service from NS ABE to their plant, 3 days a week. With NS it was 2 days a week, on a haphazard schedule, and a 2 day transit time (at least) just to or from NS ABE.
OTOH..holding on to customera or getting new ones has been a problem. Not necessarily their fault, as state of NJ is dumber than dirt and corrupt as hell
CR's service bar is already pretty low. All DRRR has to do is not treat the customers like they're second rate.
pdtrains wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 4:05 am
Im surprised that C&D is only getting FIT and SOUS. I would have at least expected them to have trackage rights into Browns for interchange. Maybe that will be a side letter?
DRRR is technically a new company - CR management probably wants to see how the interchange proceeds go before they let them onto a pretty busy and important CR line
pdtrains wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 4:05 am
Im expecting they will run to pick up interchange cars at least twice a week...so as long as CSAO brings cars down to Jamesburg twice a week... that in itself should improve transit times for consignees considerably. Having cars sit at browns for up to a week before delivery is rather poor.
Did cars for Woodhaven/FIT and SOUS customers actually sit in Browns for that long before they got delivered???? That's really screwed up...
CR7876 wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 8:07 am
My opinion is that once the two lines are made whole, the interchange will move to Browns. If not more infrastructure (tracks) will be needed in Jamesburg.
Also expect C&D to tell Woodhaven there is no limit on cars you can order. If 25 cars show up at Browns, 25 cars will go down to the interchange. DRRR will give them two drills that week.
I agree, I think it's far more likely that DRRR will just get trackage rights to Browns via the Amboy Secondary, than them taking over Browns completely, like what has been suggested here before. CR will keep ownership of Browns and whatever non-FIT/SOUS tracks are connected to the Amboy Secondary - there are too many rather large customers there that even CR doesn't want to give up, and that could overwhelm DRRR.
It could also be likely that depending on market conditions, there may be weeks here and there that Woodhaven could get daily deliveries - I can for sure see them getting at least twice a week almost immediately after takeover. Tuesday-Thursdays, like how it was when Gold's Lumber was around?
CharlieL wrote: ↑Sat May 28, 2022 8:22 am
CR7876, pdtrains, JohnfromJersey, you guys are echoing a lot of my thoughts. Dunno if Woodhaven needs more than the (occasionally as many as) 17 cars a week, but they can almost certainly use 2x/week or more delivery. Especially if deliveries are coordinated with what's dropped off on the FIT currently.
I refuse to look at this takeover as a bad thing, what with the potential for growth.
Pretty sure it's been established that Woodhaven wanted more frequent and/or longer trains in the past - for whatever reason, CR said no, you'll get once a week and only a max of ~20 cars. I'd imagine that if CR doesn't have to traverse the FIT or SOUS anymore, they would probably be far more willing to drop off more frequent loads to the interchanges - as simple as dropping it up, getting the empties, and GTHO of there - no need to go down some less than mediocre trackage.