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Pertaining to all railroading subjects, past and present, in New Jersey

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  by pdtrains
 
Id say the chances of them putting up crossbucks only at public road crossing is ZERO. All public crossings will have at least flashers. Since these are probably, considered "rehabbed" crossings, I think they can use flashers only. I think of they were considered "new" highway grade crossings, i wouldnt be surprised if gates were mandated.

Its all about liability and lawyers
  by Bracdude181
 
@pdtrains When NJSL redid Lakehurst down, busier roads got electric lights put up. One in particular actually has a signal where the train has to stop and wait for all of the traffic lights to turn red red before proceeding.

But the road immediately past has crossbucks only…
  by JohnFromJersey
 
Bracdude181 wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:31 pm @pdtrains When NJSL redid Lakehurst down, busier roads got electric lights put up. One in particular actually has a signal where the train has to stop and wait for all of the traffic lights to turn red red before proceeding.
I have never heard of such a thing. Railroads/trains have the right of way in crossings - the cars have to wait. I know on the NJCL and many other lines, if a train is crossing an intersection, all the lights will turn red for the cars, and the train does not have to wait for any lights to go red
  by Bracdude181
 
Such intersections do exist but are fairly rare. Raritan Central has one too, but the conductor has to hit a button in a box on the side of the road that turns all the lights red and allows the train to pass, and also does it again when the train is across i think.

The Lacey road crossing on Clayton’s track does it automatically, via two aspect signals that tell the train what to do.


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  by David
 
Bracdude181 wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 5:42 pm Such intersections do exist but are fairly rare. Raritan Central has one too, but the conductor has to hit a button in a box on the side of the road that turns all the lights red and allows the train to pass, and also does it again when the train is across i think.

The Lacey road crossing on Clayton’s track does it automatically, via two aspect signals that tell the train what to do.


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One of those exists in Gloucester City on the Grenloch Line at the Route 130 crossing.
  by Tanker1497
 
Bracdude181 wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 4:31 pm @pdtrains When NJSL redid Lakehurst down, busier roads got electric lights put up. One in particular actually has a signal where the train has to stop and wait for all of the traffic lights to turn red red before proceeding.

But the road immediately past has crossbucks only…
This is out of context. At route 530 the train trips the crossing signal (in this case its traffic lights) The signals just assure the engineer that the lights have indeed turned red at which point the train gets a green signal.
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  by pdtrains
 
Lots of comparing apple and oranges here.

Just one question I have, fwiw...Is Freehold to Farmingdale supposed to be rebuilt to class 1 or class 2 standards?
  by Bracdude181
 
Not sure. The section of rebuilt track in Englishtown appears to be Class 3. Perhaps Okerson Rd to Railroad Ave will be the same?


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  by Tanker1497
 
JohnFromJersey wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:16 pm
Forest3670 wrote: Fri Jan 27, 2023 3:15 pm Bridge at Marsh Bog Creek on the old Pennsy Line. Farmingdale
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Where exactly is this?
It in Howell East of Southern Ave and West of Adelphia Farmingdale rd.
  by Tanker1497
 
Just to be accurate no clearing has begun in Farmingdale. Only the little bit after the switch off the main in Farmingdale was cleared months ago when they needed to store MOW as train passed.
Let's remember that very little of the FIT is in Farmingdale. Maybe just that turnout and 1500 feet, as it is the border between Howell and Farmingdale. Most of the FIT is in Howell with some in Freehold. Southern Ave isn't in Farmingdale where train crosses. Should a wye ever be built the train will never enter Farmingdale again only to deliver a Tank car RR East. And to clear up some other posted this train never goes to Collingswood NJ that's 51.66 miles away.
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