Bracdude181 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:00 pm Tuesday and Thursday was the schedule under Conrail for a while. Perhaps C&D could try this if Friday runs are this much of an issue. Freehold does not see enough traffic right now to justify three runs a week. Monday and Wednesday would be more than enough.Agreed - or they could Saturday (in the day) runs when the Lakewood crowds are usually staying inside. I remember one of the last Tuesday runs before Gold's closed down.
CharlieL wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:11 pm And here's another rumor for you, third-hand from a NJT guy: They're examining (again, for time #3 or 4) passenger service on the southern. Lakewood-Red Bank? Something about congestion on NJCL and Bay Head facilities. Note: I do not know the source, but the guy who passed it on to me I can trust. Almost like MOM shortened to MO.Interesting. Certainly needed. One of my theories was NJT using C&D to do some of the initial track work for a MO(M) project. Would also allow for the rails north of Farmingdale to Red Bank to be free of freight use.
Bracdude181 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:08 pm @CharlieL Something about that doesn’t sound right. Congestion in Bay Head? Didn’t they just clear up a ton of space in there by getting rid of the decrepit Comet III cars that had been sitting there for the better part of a decade? Plus, Bay Head to Long Branch is practically desolate now. There’s 4 NY directs and the shuttle, which at its current schedule leaves a lot to be desired. It’s partially why there’s no ridership on that section now.There's no demand for LB-BH right now. Summer is pretty much over, you don't have the crowds of people hopping off the trains at Belmar to head over to Bar A for beat the clock anymore. If NJ was warmer for most of the year like Florida or California, LB-BH would be swamped 24/7 instead of just being swamped Memorial Day-Labor Day, barely a three-month seasonal height.
Bracdude181 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:08 pm Its busy from South Amboy and points north partially because of the SA directs. Long Branch gets a little crowded too but that’s about all I know about congestion.Because Long Branch north is where all the year-round population density is. The Shore Points NJT serves get even denser than many North Jersey towns and cities in the summer, as someone who grew up going to school in Belmar the population would increase 10x, if not more, in numbers from May-September, but they all go away when it starts getting cold again.
Bracdude181 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 02, 2022 9:08 pm MOM shortened to MO makes sense considering all the backlash NJT got when they put forward proposals to run trains through Jamesburg and the like.Ideally, MOM should just be MO, but run Toms River-Lakewood-Freehold-Marlboro-Matawan. That won't happen either though since the bike path that occupies the ROW is pretty popular and goes through numerous very wealthy housing developments - some people would literally end up getting an NJT rail crossing on their driveway.
I just don’t see it happening. Not yet anyways. Especially with the Hudson River tunnel situation. (T I C K. T O C K. T I C K. T O C K.) Without that you won’t be able to accommodate both the NY bound trains on the NJCL and whatever traffic Lakewood generates. Which would be a lot if it’s setup right.
JohnFromJersey wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:05 pm Wait, they were able to traverse from point A to B on this map???John, That track has existed since about 1940 and is just overgrown. It was even double-tracked at one point in time. The original purpose was to give the PRR (the FIT) access to Earle Naval Weapons Station via trackage rights on CNJ from Farmibgdale to Earle.
I did not know the tracks were clear enough for that to happen.
Bracdude181 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:38 pm @JohnFromJersey No. The track was cleared only enough for Tracks Unlimited to park their equipment without blocking Railroad Ave.Bracdude,
R&DB and GSC, I may be wrong but from looking at the area where brush was cleared I saw what looked like a second track there. Either that or it’s the welded rail Conrail dropped off 30 years ago and never installed.