CSX Acquisition of Pan Am Railways

Why would they route cars CP-PAS-CSX and involve a third carrier when they can go CP-CSX direct via Albany? Also, the Everett traffic now moves via Danville. I think you will find that CSX will look to consolidate as much business as possible via Selkirk and the B&A. There's no reason to split revenue with the NS when you have your own parallel line.

If the Everett cars move via CP then where are the 10-20 car cuts of Ciment Quebec cars going to that move between Danvile and Lawrence on a regular basis? I could be wrong but CSX is in the business of moving freight over its' own lines, so again, I doubt very much that they would want to share the business with their biggest competitor vs keeping all the revenue themselves.

I assume that all of you involved in these various discussion about possible container traffic are aware that CP routes any doublestack traffic using hycube containers between Toronto/Montreal and soon Saint John on train 143 west of Montreal to Buffalo where the complete train including locomotives becomes CSX train Q165 to Chicago where it returns to CP at Blue Island using a CP transfer crew to Bensenville Yard as train 143 again. Train 142/Q166 operates in the reverse direction. So CSX benefits in some of the Saint John Intermodal traffic without rebuilding the tracks to 'Keag.

I’m by no means trying to start a pissing match either, I was simply stating facts on how CQ at Everett has their cars routed. Maybe they ship some via CP too but the vast majority was shifted to CN some time ago. Perhaps the cars you talk of on ED 8 are going to Bow as i’m Sure it’s not that uncommon for those cars to make it to Lawrence.

Would like to know where the cement car coming from on the cprail .

They must have run the Lawrence block from Rigby all the way to Deerfield.

A couple points:

Mr Tosh - haulage is a bilateral contract between two roads and outside of STB jurisdiction. Also, consider that in this case, this is actually an international haulage agreement. I'm not aware of any such trackage rights agreements and how they would be administered between STB and Transport Canada.

To those that feel Irving will sell NBSR: If you were a major rail user such as Irving and the road you owned had the leverage of having connections to three Class Is, and direct access to a good deal of your woodlands, would you sell?

Newpy - with respect, simply going into the computer and changing routing ignores the fact that roads set up with shippers rates that are route specific. Under some conditions, gateways can be altered for convenience, but introducing new roads into the routing - not so much.

CQ’s plant is on the QGRY....they have the option to go via both CN and CP and in recent years have split the traffic. Most goes CP at Mechanicville though.

If Genesee & Wyoming were to become the partner in pamam southern. Then I Would think that Genesee & Wyoming would like to move it mostly on there lines. It would not make any sense to have it moved through csx on the boston and albany line. This would make them more like to move the cement by the way of the connecticut river line or cp rail to Mechanicville, NY. This way they can try to keep more of the revenue for them self. The only real problem with this is it takes more railroads handling it.