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  by Coast Line Railfan
 
Bracdude181 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:47 pm @CoastLineRailfan I was up there today and they put new rails in on the Siding that leads to Gold Lumber. Work is being done by a contractor called Tracks Unlimited. How come they are putting new rails in at a railroad crossing that hasn't seen a train since 2009?
Since it is mandated by the NJDOT. They aren't doing that to run trains over it.
  by Coast Line Railfan
 
Bracdude181 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 5:28 pm @pdtrains You've hit the nail right on the head. The southern used to have a large amount of customers who manufactured products back in the good old days.

The largest was a plastics plant across from Collingswood Auction. They got 20-25 cars every other day and had their own engine for moving cars around. The cars were full of plastic pellets used to make molded plastic products. (Mainly plastic pet cages)
From a firsthand account, they normally received up to 5 or 6 cars every few days, and were capable of holding about 15 to 18 cars on their property.
  by Bracdude181
 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/uvuGqdLfvW8Rjabw8

These are the pictures I took while I was in farmingdale today. This is the OOS track that crosses Railroad Ave in Farmingdale. Looks like it's being returned to service....
  by jdh823
 
Bracdude181 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 6:40 pm https://photos.app.goo.gl/uvuGqdLfvW8Rjabw8

These are the pictures I took while I was in farmingdale today. This is the OOS track that crosses Railroad Ave in Farmingdale. Looks like it's being returned to service....
Theres no other proof that its coming back to service. One crossing being done out of maybe 10 mile of track barely means anything.

They put track back in under the NJ TPK just west of Cranbury 5 years ago. But they still don't use it. It's most likely just funded by the NJDOT so they fixed it up...
  by Bracdude181
 
@jdh823 I think I know that track. Runs parallel with Heightstown-Cranbury road for about a mile. Doesn't make much sense to rebuild a railroad crossing or rail line for it to not be used.

Who knows. Maybe Crosslin Contractor Supply in Farmingdale is gonna get rail service. (They have a siding but it's not connected to the main) I had been hearing rumors from Conrail employees that they had been wanting to reopen the Farmingdale to Freehold route. I personally hope that's what's gonna happen, but only time will tell...
  by CR7876
 
Bracdude181 wrote:@jdh823 I think I know that track. Runs parallel with Heightstown-Cranbury road for about a mile. Doesn't make much sense to rebuild a railroad crossing or rail line for it to not be used.

Who knows. Maybe Crosslin Contractor Supply in Farmingdale is gonna get rail service. (They have a siding but it's not connected to the main) I had been hearing rumors from Conrail employees that they had been wanting to reopen the Farmingdale to Freehold route. I personally hope that's what's gonna happen, but only time will tell...
They never put the switch back to the old Jamesway Building either. While I agree that this does't really mean anything, they could just as easily removed the crossing. So while just the crossing doesn't really mean much for restoration, it might mean CR isn't looking to pull the rails up just yet.
  by Bracdude181
 
Today's train is being lead by CSX 4406 with CSX 4429 trailing. About 10-11 cars. The regular crew members are out today...
  by Coast Line Railfan
 
I'd assume they're in Tinton Falls?
  by RailsEast
 
In South Amboy right now with permission to open the switch...
  by Coast Line Railfan
 
Ah, I heard they were an hour early so I assumed they were further along.
  by RailsEast
 
Approaching Maxwell Rd at 4:45 in the pm with 11 for Woodhaven.
  by Bracdude181
 
Found out from a reliable source that Howell Township wanted to pave over the Gold Lumber siding due to it being out of service. They brought it up with Conrail and Conrail said they wanted to save the track for a "potential future use" Conrail didn't provide a timeline for if or when the track was gonna be used. (Shocker)
  by jdh823
 
Bracdude181 wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:18 pm Found out from a reliable source that Howell Township wanted to pave over the Gold Lumber siding due to it being out of service. They brought it up with Conrail and Conrail said they wanted to save the track for a "potential future use" Conrail didn't provide a timeline for if or when the track was gonna be used. (Shocker)
Once again "potential" is the key word here. Doesn't mean it will happen. I have not heard anything about this and I know a lot of people in the railroad.

You're thinking about it too much. Just because they don't want to have it paved over doesn't mean its coming back

While we are at pipe dreams, I saw the crossing malfunction on Stults road, and conrail crews working on the crossing. Does that mean its coming back? No.
Last edited by jdh823 on Fri Aug 28, 2020 2:51 am, edited 1 time in total.
  by NJT4149
 
SA-38 approaching BANK at 1:19 in the AM
  by R&DB
 
All this speculation about the Freehold - Farmingdale is cracking me up. NJDOT owns the entire ROW and there exist standards for highway crossings. This work is routine maintenance. Any RR would prefer to have experienced RR contractors replace the crossings than city, county or state highway workers. As far as Howell wanting to pave over the crossing on Southard Ave, it's in Farmingdale NOT Howell.
By the way, most of the rail from F'dale to Oakerson Rd is still there, just buried or paved over.
In order to use this route for access to the Southern Secondary, a wye needs to be created in F'dale.
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